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Old 02-28-2023, 01:01 AM   #1
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There'd be nothing more exciting than trading up for a WR.

If we trade up it will be to replace or avoid a big contract IMO. OBJ, JuJu, and Sneed have all earned big upcoming contracts, Clark is already being paid a contract above his production level, and I don't think MVS can live up to the $14m his owed if we keep him after next year.

Only Mahomes, Kelce, and Jones are untouchable.
I really don't think Jones is untouchable. If Detroit called and offered me #6 and #18, I'd take it. Seems ridiculous, but it could set KC up really well at LT and WR for the next 5 years at those spots and there are solid DTs in FA this year to make up for some of the loss. I mean, that's alot for any one team to give up. There's other scenarios I'd think hard about too that involve a high 1st and 2nd.
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:03 AM   #2
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I really don't think Jones is untouchable. If Detroit called and offered me #6 and #18, I'd take it. Seems ridiculous, but it could set KC up really well at LT and WR for the next 5 years at those spots and there are solid DTs in FA this year to make up for some of the loss. I mean, that's alot for any one team to give up. There's other scenarios I'd think hard about too that involve a high 1st and 2nd.
I think you'd have to consider it for 6 and 48, too. That's high compensation.

If you're getting into that range, you're not quite high enough to land Carter or Anderson unless one of them inexplicably falls.

It IS high enough to land Paris Johnson, Jr, though.

And if you're landing Paris Johnson, shoot... isn't the smart move to tag and trade Orlando Brown for what you can get this year?
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:43 PM   #3
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I think you'd have to consider it for 6 and 48, too. That's high compensation.

If you're getting into that range, you're not quite high enough to land Carter or Anderson unless one of them inexplicably falls.

It IS high enough to land Paris Johnson, Jr, though.

And if you're landing Paris Johnson, shoot... isn't the smart move to tag and trade Orlando Brown for what you can get this year?
I like playing with these scenarios as well, but sometimes I wonder why we're so cap conscious as fans. I want the most talented team possible, not the best financial situation for the owner. Of course I want long term cap success for our Chiefs, but with the way bonuses are structured now it feels like you can pay anyone you want if you're creative.

My point is... we just won the SB, we have the #1 roster in the league, why move key pieces of that team at all? Shouldn't we fans be pounding the table harder to keep our current roster in tact? Paris is a top rated LT in this draft, and here we are questioning if he's a sure thing. We already know C Jones and/or OBJ are league leading quality. You'd for certain have to give me more than a 1-to-1 trade for a cheaper league hopeful in order for me to want to move on from one of them. The Tyreek trade at least gave us multiple shots at replacing him.

We already have 11-12 picks in this draft, that's enough ammo for Veach to Veach without moving top line talent from our current championship roster.
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Old 02-28-2023, 07:46 PM   #4
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I like playing with these scenarios as well, but sometimes I wonder why we're so cap conscious as fans. I want the most talented team possible, not the best financial situation for the owner. Of course I want long term cap success for our Chiefs, but with the way bonuses are structured now it feels like you can pay anyone you want if you're creative.

My point is... we just won the SB, we have the #1 roster in the league, why move key pieces of that team at all? Shouldn't we fans be pounding the table harder to keep our current roster in tact? Paris is a top rated LT in this draft, and here we are questioning if he's a sure thing. We already know C Jones and/or OBJ are league leading quality. You'd for certain have to give me more than a 1-to-1 trade for a cheaper league hopeful in order for me to want to move on from one of them. The Tyreek trade at least gave us multiple shots at replacing him.

We already have 11-12 picks in this draft, that's enough ammo for Veach to Veach without moving top line talent from our current championship roster.
It's not about the owner at all. It's about the cap. The idea is that we've shown that Mahomes plus best 52=Super Bowl. What's the best way to get and maintain the best 52 under the cap? And without pushing cost forward, where you can end up screwing yourself in the future? I don't know about you, but I'm kind of digging this contending every single year thing.
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