WR Deandre Hopkins? - Page 5

Couch-Potato · 12-26-2022, 09:30 AM

I saw a few articles suggesting that the Cardinals might trade Deandre Hopkins this offseason. They've only won 4 games this year, might need to cash in and rebuild. Many believe he'd end up in NE after Bill Belichick flirted with him on the sidelines recently, but I'm wondering if he wants to play for a winning team at some point in his career. Others, like the Giants are speculating he could be had for a 2nd RD pick, which means if we were interested it would likely cost us a 2nd + an additional pick.

Hopkins contract salary is for $19.5m & $15m over the next two years, even if you paid JuJu $20m you'd still only be paying $10m more than Tyreek's contract for both. Hopkins missed 6 games, and JuJu has missed 1, but JuJu is only 160 yards ahead of Hopkins, both with 3 TDS and 11 yards per catch, so he hasn't lost a step. Hopkins also plays on the outside, and we could really use a tall outside WR, plus he's a phenomenal deep threat.

I think it'd be really interesting to explore a Deandre Hopkins trade this offseason with all those extra picks, for maybe a 2nd & 5th(?), to hopefully pair him with JuJu. Let Hardman, Watson AND MVS ($8.5m next year & $11.5m the following) walk.

Imagine rolling that Tyreek trade into the greatest passing attack we've ever had, and then blowing THAT offense out of the water the following year!

TE Kelce - Stalwart Goat TE
WR Hopkins - Tall Star Outside Deep Threat
WR JuJu - Big & Tall Slot Star
WR Toney - Fast & Crazy Agile Gadget / Returner
WR Moore - Chain Mover, grows into highly reliable route runner & pass catcher
WR Ross - Surprise Talent, has 2 year to learn from Hopkins
WR Rookie - New Blood

GloucesterChief · 02-28-2023, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge

How did that work out for Detroit?

It's not like he lit the world on fire in Detroit either. He maxed out at 70 rec. for one season and year after year after that he has declined.

Kenny Golladay for his skillset has been a disappointment in the NFL.

I'm not quite down with the idea that just because of Mahomes that he will bring out everything you have hoped for in all these never lived up to expectation guys. The idea of all the reclamation projects will be successful is a disaster waiting to happen.

If he is cheap, he is worth a shot. That is my position.

Abba-Dabba · 02-28-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

If he is cheap, he is worth a shot. That is my position.

For a guy that was making 18 million dollars per year. I doubt you and him see eye to eye on what is cheap.

Couch-Potato · 02-28-2023, 02:33 PM

UGH! Why did you even speak Kenny Golladay's name into existence!? My instant gut reaction to that post is that you're 100% correct. He's absolutely the kind of buy-low, under the radar, retread, career reviving type of contract I expect the Chiefs to find this offseason. It's honestly too perfect not to be exactly what happens, but I wish you'd never put that idea out into the ether because I fear it becomes a self full-filling prophecy now.

Not that I have anything against Golladay, or that I'd hate adding him, just not sure he's the impact player I'm dreaming about in this thread.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2023, 06:13 AM

I would also be looking at Tyler Lockett, Hollywood Brown in a trade.

Both would add explosive playmaking ability while not breaking the bank.

O.city · 03-01-2023, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I would also be looking at Tyler Lockett, Hollywood Brown in a trade.

Both would add explosive playmaking ability while not breaking the bank.

Lockett is too old IMO.

Look younger.

Couch-Potato · 03-01-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Lockett is too old IMO.

Look younger.

DK Metcalf.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

DK Metcalf.

Seattle just extended him.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Lockett is too old IMO.

Look younger.

He's 30.

The point is to not give big contracts to guys that are older.

If he's in at a good rate (16 million or less) why not for 2 years?

kccrow · 03-13-2023, 07:02 PM

I'll give them 4-134, 6-217, and a choice of RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or LB Willie Gay Jr.

They get a couple more picks and a RB that could split carries with Conner or Gay could step into a vacant ILB role for them in their 3-4.

Abba-Dabba · 03-13-2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'll give them 4-134, 6-217, and a choice of RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or LB Willie Gay Jr.

They get a couple more picks and a RB that could split carries with Conner or Gay could step into a vacant ILB role for them in their 3-4.

That is what you would give them.

But what would you give him?

kccrow · 03-13-2023, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

That is what you would give them.

But what would you give him?

Access to my personal trainer. Ha

dlphg9 · 03-13-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'll give them 4-134, 6-217, and a choice of RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or LB Willie Gay Jr.

They get a couple more picks and a RB that could split carries with Conner or Gay could step into a vacant ILB role for them in their 3-4.

Veach wouldn't get rid of a young and about to hit his prime LB for a washed WR that's going to maybe play half the season if he's lucky

Titty Meat · 03-13-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'll give them 4-134, 6-217, and a choice of RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or LB Willie Gay Jr.

They get a couple more picks and a RB that could split carries with Conner or Gay could step into a vacant ILB role for them in their 3-4.

That's alot for an old WR though maybe a 4 & 6 I'm not trading Gay this year. We draft right I think we could have a top 10 defense

Abba-Dabba · 03-13-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Access to my personal trainer. Ha

Is that what you are calling him now?

Titty Meat · 03-13-2023, 08:25 PM

Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen:

Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension.

Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder)

Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins

You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left.

Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.

12-26-2022, 09:30 AM
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $183065	WR Deandre Hopkins? I saw a few articles suggesting that the Cardinals might trade Deandre Hopkins this offseason. They've only won 4 games this year, might need to cash in and rebuild. Many believe he'd end up in NE after Bill Belichick flirted with him on the sidelines recently, but I'm wondering if he wants to play for a winning team at some point in his career. Others, like the Giants are speculating he could be had for a 2nd RD pick, which means if we were interested it would likely cost us a 2nd + an additional pick. Hopkins contract salary is for $19.5m & $15m over the next two years, even if you paid JuJu $20m you'd still only be paying $10m more than Tyreek's contract for both. Hopkins missed 6 games, and JuJu has missed 1, but JuJu is only 160 yards ahead of Hopkins, both with 3 TDS and 11 yards per catch, so he hasn't lost a step. Hopkins also plays on the outside, and we could really use a tall outside WR, plus he's a phenomenal deep threat. I think it'd be really interesting to explore a Deandre Hopkins trade this offseason with all those extra picks, for maybe a 2nd & 5th(?), to hopefully pair him with JuJu. Let Hardman, Watson AND MVS ($8.5m next year & $11.5m the following) walk. Imagine rolling that Tyreek trade into the greatest passing attack we've ever had, and then blowing THAT offense out of the water the following year! TE Kelce - Stalwart Goat TE WR Hopkins - Tall Star Outside Deep Threat WR JuJu - Big & Tall Slot Star WR Toney - Fast & Crazy Agile Gadget / Returner WR Moore - Chain Mover, grows into highly reliable route runner & pass catcher WR Ross - Surprise Talent, has 2 year to learn from Hopkins WR Rookie - New Blood
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02-28-2023, 02:33 PM	#63
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $183065	UGH! Why did you even speak Kenny Golladay's name into existence!? My instant gut reaction to that post is that you're 100% correct. He's absolutely the kind of buy-low, under the radar, retread, career reviving type of contract I expect the Chiefs to find this offseason. It's honestly too perfect not to be exactly what happens, but I wish you'd never put that idea out into the ether because I fear it becomes a self full-filling prophecy now. Not that I have anything against Golladay, or that I'd hate adding him, just not sure he's the impact player I'm dreaming about in this thread.
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03-01-2023, 06:13 AM	#64
MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $390400	I would also be looking at Tyler Lockett, Hollywood Brown in a trade. Both would add explosive playmaking ability while not breaking the bank.
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03-13-2023, 07:02 PM	#69
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1230000	I'll give them 4-134, 6-217, and a choice of RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire or LB Willie Gay Jr. They get a couple more picks and a RB that could split carries with Conner or Gay could step into a vacant ILB role for them in their 3-4.
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03-13-2023, 08:25 PM	#75
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1122442	Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen: Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension. Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder) Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left. Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.
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