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Old 03-31-2023, 12:08 PM  
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Old 03-31-2023, 10:48 PM   #106
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I already know of large group of Chief fans in Munich, Berlin that are wanting to know about chapters. London has a lot of NFL fans. It might be successful now.

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Old 03-31-2023, 10:56 PM   #107
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I honestly think they'd have to adjust the salary cap on a team by team basis if they did this.

You can't expect teams that are subject to EU levels of withholding to be able to keep players at the same figures teams in the US can. And then what? How far do you go? Do you 'balance' for teams in Texas and Florida with no state income tax? California teams get a buffer because it has a high tax rate?

Shit, why not start talking about cost of living while you're at it...

It's all a terrible idea and it's designed to do nothing but make more money at the expense of the product. I would be righteously pissed.
European basketball players are paid in net (post tax) salaries. The solution is there, NFL owners just won't want to open that can of worms.
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Old 03-31-2023, 10:58 PM   #108
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London to Seattle is ten hours.

SF to to Berlin/Rome is 12~13 hours. I mean I guess if I'm flying first class and getting paid millions...

But that would still suck.
If they do it, and they shouldn't, it will probably be a road trip where a team plays back to back weekends or some combination in Europe.
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Old 03-31-2023, 11:09 PM   #109
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To be clear, I am NOT advocating for expansion OR this idea, I’m against both, but I don’t think it’s necessarily required that a second 4 team expansion is required to balance the AFC and NFC if teams are added in Europe.

Existing 32 + 4 = 36.
Two 18 team conferences.
Three 6 team divisions per conference.

Getting to a logical/repeatable pattern of 17 games in that format is a bit challenging. Realignment also means that multiple teams lose traditional rivals. Two or more US teams also get stuck with European ones immediately hurting their value (how do you obligate/incentivize).
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Old 04-01-2023, 02:40 AM   #110
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Old 04-01-2023, 07:16 AM   #112
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The tax rate is considerably higher in most European countries. The players won't love that. Free agents will be less likely to sign there.
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Old 04-01-2023, 08:07 AM   #114
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Old 04-01-2023, 08:15 AM   #115
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The tax rate is considerably higher in most European countries. The players won't love that. Free agents will be less likely to sign there.
That's true hopefully the NFLPA could block it but it doesn't seem like they have much say it most matters honestly.
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This is our system. You have to take the good with the bad. Someone wants to get rich, start Apple in their parents garage is a part of the greed. Multi-Billionaires like being billionaires and the power it brings. That drive that got them there in the first place is probably still there.
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was considering the suggested 8 team expansion and 18 game season... with all the travel, maybe your backups would play more often like in baseball or basketball. Essentially a pitch count to avoid injuries, which would make positions like backup QB more important. That could actually make the game more interesting from a team building standpoint.
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We really need to up the season to 30 games while we are at it

Just start a European league with 16 teams and the Super Bowl champ plays their champ for the world bowl. But other than preseason we never play them.
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Baseball in East Asia has a long history. Japan started playing in the early 1900s and spread it to Taiwan and Korea. Talent coming over is relatively recent though as most of the East Asian talent played in the Japanese leagues historically.
Yeah I get that football has less history in other countries. My main point was that other sports found ways to create international interest without season altering games on international turf and by using exhibitions. Look at how soccer does it in the US. I’ve been to EPL exhibitions that sell out college stadiums. I’ve seen EPL backup scrubs play MLS teams.

The NBA is definitely the best model of this. They’ve done an amazing job at bringing an international audience. Other leagues have been way more creative about attracting an international audience and they’re doing it without ****ing with nfl competitive scheduling
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