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Old 04-20-2023, 09:52 AM   #1
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Just FYI, Nate Taylor has Harrison as a possibility at pick 63
No ****ing way a pass-protecting OT with LT feet falls to 63.

And if he did, he would not be a 'possibility' - he'd be an absolute certainty.

I'm still only 50/50 he makes it to 31. Fellas, there aren't many guys in this draft with the length/feet/strength that Harrison has. Paris Johnson is the only OT in this draft who I think it obviously more capable of playing LT in the NFL. Broderick Jones is just such a fascinating physical specimen that I put him right at the same level as Harrison in that regard. But Harrison's technique is better, IMO.

In either event - no, Harrison won't be there at 63.
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No ****ing way a pass-protecting OT with LT feet falls to 63.

And if he did, he would not be a 'possibility' - he'd be an absolute certainty.

I'm still only 50/50 he makes it to 31. Fellas, there aren't many guys in this draft with the length/feet/strength that Harrison has. Paris Johnson is the only OT in this draft who I think it obviously more capable of playing LT in the NFL. Broderick Jones is just such a fascinating physical specimen that I put him right at the same level as Harrison in that regard. But Harrison's technique is better, IMO.

In either event - no, Harrison won't be there at 63.
But if he is that type of T....don't those guys usually go really early?
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But if he is that type of T....don't those guys usually go really early?
Gets dinged as not being as powerful as your typical 1st round OTs (Johnson and Jones, maybe even Wright, being the poster children there).

But again, I keep having visions of Mitchell Schwartz here. Athletic and good with your angles can take you a LOOOOONG way at OT. Will he ever be a premier drive blocker in the run game? Probably not.

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It's pretty much common knowledge, and he admits it, that Nate doesn't really know dick about the draft or prospects. He gets all of his takes from Brugler's draft guide.
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It's pretty much common knowledge, and he admits it, that Nate doesn't really know dick about the draft or prospects. He gets all of his takes from Brugler's draft guide.
It's so weird to me that a guy who covers football for a living doesn't know things like that.
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It's so weird to me that a guy who covers football for a living doesn't know things like that.
Might not be a popular opinion, but Taylor is low key kind of worthless IMO.

He doesn't have the sources in the organization OR the football knowledge of Terez.

Or maybe we were just spoiled with Terez
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Might not be a popular opinion, but Taylor is low key kind of worthless IMO.

He doesn't have the sources in the organization OR the football knowledge of Terez.

Or maybe we were just spoiled with Terez
Even without insider sources you could have a lot of just knowledge of what's going on. The fact that some of these guys seem oblivious to other NFL teams and the college game is really ****ing baffling.
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Might not be a popular opinion, but Taylor is low key kind of worthless IMO.

He doesn't have the sources in the organization OR the football knowledge of Terez.

Or maybe we were just spoiled with Terez
So yeah, you got there first.

I think you're being a little harsh; he does have sources within the organization (he was trying to tell everyone that they were absolutely bringing Watkins back, for instance, and Clark last season).

But no, he simply doesn't understand the game as well as Terez did.
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It's so weird to me that a guy who covers football for a living doesn't know things like that.
He covers the NFL for a living. He doesn't cover 'football' write large and he sees this as a college football thing.

Or a 'draft guru' thing whereby he defers to the experts.

But yeah, he just rarely gets a damn thing right.

I like Nate, don't get me wrong, but damn I miss Terez. Because that guy covered the Chiefs but knew EVERYTHING. Taylor simply doesn't have the broad knowledge base that Paylor had.
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I have Anton Harrison in the first before KC picks. I don't know that he's there. I really dont' think he's a 2nd round player at all.

I also really like Foskey. If it weren't for WR, he'd be my guy at 31. I don't know how the organization feels about WR but with first-round guys working out with Mahomes, I assume it to be high on their priority list, so it makes it difficult not to project one there over some other guys like Foskey.

I do like Isaiah McGuire alot too, but I don't know how Spags and company value hand size. We saw the knocks come out about Myles Murphy. McGuire also has tiny hands at 8-5/8". If it is a thing, he's not going to be as highly coveted. I, personally, don't know that it matters as much at DE as DT but Spags loves to bring his bigger DEs down inside and then it is a problem. Murphy and McGuire just might not be guys the Chiefs opt for when all is said and done.
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Gets dinged as not being as powerful as your typical 1st round OTs (Johnson and Jones, maybe even Wright, being the poster children there).

But again, I keep having visions of Mitchell Schwartz here. Athletic and good with your angles can take you a LOOOOONG way at OT. Will he ever be a premier drive blocker in the run game? Probably not.

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I have Anton Harrison in the first before KC picks. I don't know that he's there. I really dont' think he's a 2nd round player at all.

I also really like Foskey. If it weren't for WR, he'd be my guy at 31. I don't know how the organization feels about WR but with first-round guys working out with Mahomes, I assume it to be high on their priority list, so it makes it difficult not to project one there over some other guys like Foskey.

I do like Isaiah McGuire alot too, but I don't know how Spags and company value hand size. We saw the knocks come out about Myles Murphy. McGuire also has tiny hands at 8-5/8". If it is a thing, he's not going to be as highly coveted. I, personally, don't know that it matters as much at DE as DT but Spags loves to bring his bigger DEs down inside and then it is a problem. Murphy and McGuire just might not be guys the Chiefs opt for when all is said and done.
But those guys or types of players tend to go in the 2nd round....no?
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I'll have to tweak it a little and pass it by u guys. I don't like two NTs. I think we need a rotational 3T.

Not sure I like Kuntz over Whyle and both might be there at 4b. That's a tough sell to me.

Also think you guys have Anthony Johnson too low.

Edit: and Saldiveri too low as well.
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