Simms has us taking Murphy

[BossChief]

He also has Van Ness falling to 29 and McDonald to Philly @30.

I’d love a move up for Van Ness if he gets past the Chargers in his mock.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok that is an entire position saying if they'll draft it high that is not the same as the type of players they like at a position.

McDonald doesn't check 2 boxes, he's old and he's small.

Yeah, I don't think guys like McDonald and Smith are going to be very high on Spags' wish list.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

At the end of the day if you want an edge, get the one that fits and that guy is Murphy.

Eh, I don't think he's going to be there. I'd take the value, obviously, if he's there even though I don't feel like edge is a priority this year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Eh, I don't think he's going to be there. I'd take the value, obviously, if he's there even though I don't feel like edge is a priority this year.

While I see that, Murphy is probably a 3 down player that is going to consistently get double digit sacks, that is great value after pick 20.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

While I see that, Murphy is probably a 3 down player that is going to consistently get double digit sacks, that is great value after pick 20.

I have a really hard time seeing him going after Van Ness. I still think he's a top-15 guy in this draft.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I have a really hard time seeing him going after Van Ness. I still think he's a top-15 guy in this draft.

Every single person has him falling, guys in the know everyone...must be something about him.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Every single person has him falling, guys in the know everyone...must be something about him.

Have some sources I can look at?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Have some sources I can look at?

Daniel Jeremiah has him 21st on his big board behind Van Ness.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Daniel Jeremiah has him 21st on his big board behind Van Ness.

I think Boylehart has him 17 after Van Ness as well. Those are still a ways from 31 and teams overdraft edge rushers with regularity. I guess it will come down to where NFL teams value Van Ness and Murphy that'll make the biggest difference. If they see them like they saw Johnson and Karlaftis last year where there is a pretty significant drop from the top couple of guys, and I'd certainly side with that being true, then they could go much later than even the pundits might think. The only differentiating factor might be the lack of top-end talent elsewhere as well as the overall need for edge talent. I also still don't see how Smith is a 1st round talent, like at all. Maybe he's a bottom of 1 guy but I'm not seeing top half the first talent where he's being ranked regularly.

[BossChief]

If we can give up 95 and a mid rounder next year to go get Van Ness or Murphy, we won the draft.

Period.

Our DL can get constant pressure without blitzing and it opens up the rest of the defense…and the DL would be deep.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If we can give up 95 and a mid rounder next year to go get Van Ness or Murphy, we won the draft.

Period.

Our DL can get constant pressure without blitzing and it opens up the rest of the defense…and the DL would be deep.

Combine that with our secondary developing and this defense should have the highest floor its had since the AS11 years.

[TambaBerry]

No shot Murphy goes outside top 15

[BossChief]

If you watch the show, he slips in that he wouldn’t be shocked if LaPorta goes a lot higher than some think…maybe even sliding into the first round.

[BryanBusby]

Not sold on LaPorta going in the first. Have heard some teams aren't liking the medicals.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If you watch the show, he slips in that he wouldn’t be shocked if LaPorta goes a lot higher than some think…maybe even sliding into the first round.

I like LaPorta a lot but he's not going that high. Also heard there was a medical...

[siberian khatru]

Dane Brugler in his final mock has Murphy falling to the Chiefs at 31.