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Old 03-22-2023, 12:30 PM  
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Did he reinjure himself stepping off the podium at the presser?
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Old 03-31-2023, 09:19 PM   #302
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March 31st, 2023 at 7:46pm CST • By Ely Allen
Here are some of the details on a few deals reached around the league recently:

C.J. Gardner-Johnson, S (Lions): One-year, $6.5MM. The deal, according to Aaron Wilson of KPRC 2, is completely guaranteed with a signing bonus of $4MM and a fully guaranteed base salary of $2.5MM. The contract also includes a second, void year to spread out his cap hit. Gardner-Johnson can earn an additional $1.5MM based on incentives. There’s a potential for him to make $375,000 each for playing 70-percent of the team’s defensive snaps and/or intercepting three passes. He can make an additional $375,000 each for upping those numbers to 80% and five interceptions. Unfortunately, these potential bonuses are conditional. Even if he checks all those boxes, Gardner-Johnson will reportedly only receive his money if the Lions are in the top 16 in the league for yards allowed.
Mecole Hardman, WR (Jets): One-year, $4.5MM. We’ve already reported some details of Hardman’s new contract. Thanks to Wilson, we have a bit more information on the incentives of the deal. Depending on receptions, Hardman can earn $125,000 if he catches 50 passes or more, $250,000 for 60, and $500,000 for 70. For yards, Hardman can receive $125,000 for 650 receiving yards or more, $250,000 for 750, and $500,000 for 850. For touchdowns, Hardman can earn $125,000 for catching six touchdowns, $250,000 for eight, and $500,000 for 10. Lastly, Hardman can receive $250,000 for a wild card win or bye, $250,000 for a divisional round win, $250,000 for a conference championship, and $250,000 for a Super Bowl win. In total, that makes $2.5MM available through incentives. The Jets are expecting big things out of Hardman, as he would’ve only earned the bottom-level of each incentive once over his four-year career with the Chiefs.
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Old 03-31-2023, 09:21 PM   #303
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Christ, can you at least put some paragraph breaks in that?
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Jets just signed Randall Cobb. This isn't looking too good for Hardman
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Old 05-03-2023, 09:59 AM   #305
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Jets just signed Randall Cobb. This isn't looking too good for Hardman
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He's an idiot.
Rodgers is well known for throwing to guys he's familiar with too, so he's really in trouble. He isn't hitting any of those incentives. Plus, Hardman's horrible route running will drive him nuts. He'll lose trust in him very quickly.
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Looks like he's just going to be a jet sweep guy...
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This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole..
And then he didnt. At least a few times.
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Hope he be a gunner on ST , or else he won’t play much , going from a number 3 in a high powered offense to a number 5-6 on the Jets has got to sting a little
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Outside of STs I just don't see him having a role with the Jets. This is definitely one of those decisions that he made that seems to be backfiring. Thoughts on bringing him back if he's cut by the NYJ? Or has that ship sailed? He does bring speed and knowledge of the offense.
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Cobb is past old. Surely he can beat him out.
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Outside of STs I just don't see him having a role with the Jets. This is definitely one of those decisions that he made that seems to be backfiring. Thoughts on bringing him back if he's cut by the NYJ? Or has that ship sailed? He does bring speed and knowledge of the offense.
Fellas, Hardman ain't playing special teams. He's probably the 2nd best slot receiver on that team behind Wilson. Wilson though is a great receiver inside and outside so the Jets can be creative with how they want to deploy him. The Jets will have personnel packages that include both Wilson and Hardman on the field.

Randall Cobb is ancient- will be 33 by the team the season starts. Cobb is insurance more than anything, starting Cobb over Hardman doesn't give you the best chance to succeed. Hardman's role with NYJ will be similar to what it was here- gadget + receiver who can stretch a defense. The NYJ receivers don't have a ton of top end speed outside of Hardman, he will be utilized accordingly.

I'm not torn up about Hardman gone at all but we don't have to downplay his capabilities since he isn't a Chief anymore. He's a complimentary weapon with a specific skill set.
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Looks like he's just going to be a jet sweep guy...
I feel like mecole and obj both left because they had too much pride to accept a demotion, so they went to another team to take less money. In mecoles case he took less money and accepted a demotion.

If he was willing to just return kicks and be used as a gadget guy he’d be a nice option and I kinda wish we stuck with him. But I think he had too much pride to do that.
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I feel like mecole and obj both left because they had too much pride to accept a demotion, so they went to another team to take less money. In mecoles case he took less money and accepted a demotion.

If he was willing to just return kicks and be used as a gadget guy he’d be a nice option and I kinda wish we stuck with him. But I think he had too much pride to do that.
One of the things about winning championships is that everybody seems to have an inflated view of themselves as individual players.
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Fellas, Hardman ain't playing special teams. He's probably the 2nd best slot receiver on that team behind Wilson. Wilson though is a great receiver inside and outside so the Jets can be creative with how they want to deploy him. The Jets will have personnel packages that include both Wilson and Hardman on the field.

Randall Cobb is ancient- will be 33 by the team the season starts. Cobb is insurance more than anything, starting Cobb over Hardman doesn't give you the best chance to succeed. Hardman's role with NYJ will be similar to what it was here- gadget + receiver who can stretch a defense. The NYJ receivers don't have a ton of top end speed outside of Hardman, he will be utilized accordingly.

I'm not torn up about Hardman gone at all but we don't have to downplay his capabilities since he isn't a Chief anymore. He's a complimentary weapon with a specific skill set.
On third down I’m trusting Wilson/Lazard/Cobb way before hardman , probably Davis too.
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