Kelce injures knee

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Missing "A" practice has never been a disqualifier to play. Missing most of the week practices yes.

And the thought process that it takes another week to get healthy means the player isn't ready to go. And as you stated risking further injury because a player isn't fully healthy isn't the same as sitting a player who isn't at risk of further injury.

Reid didn't hold Jones out, the training staff did. A calf injury is exactly the kind of thing you don't push. ( I couldn't remember why Jones was out and had to look it up)

Now you're drawing lines between Reid and the training staff, as though the latter is not a reflection of the philosophy established by the former.

And ignoring a dozen different examples to the contrary.

Reid almost always requires a full week of practice. Yes, there are instances (Mahomes being the obvious one) where he'll let a guy play, but to say that as a general rule he's not conservative with injuries is just silly.

If there's an injury that runs the risk of aggravation and the player wasn't able to put in a full week of practice, he RARELY plays them that week. His usual rule is to be a full participant by the Wednesday practice but again, even a limited designation on Tuesday makes it no better than a coin flip scenario that a guy's going to play unless it's some sort of maintenance day.

Reid very much slow-plays guys returning from injury.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kelce may play tonight - no different than when Mahomes played on a clearly compromised ankle.

But to argue that he isn't conservative with injuries as a general rule just ignores the reality we've seen, especially over the last several years as the team has focused less on making the playoffs and more on doing damage when they get there.

He slow rolls guys back from injuries far more often than he doesn't.

Give me a good example outside of a hamstring injury.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Give me a good example outside of a hamstring injury.

Why? You're going to sidestep them anyway.

Clyde came back from the IR, didn't get activated for the SB. "Well we had better options..."

Thuney misses an extra game with the ankle injury "Well he can't take any chances with Mahomes..."

Jones warms up for a playoff game but doesn't play "Well that was the training staff..."

Tyreek Hill hurts his shoulder, returns to practice on October 2nd, doesn't play that week; returns on October 13th - "But he went to the hospital..."

I'm not going to go through the injury reports and feed them to you. It's stupid. You know what you know and by god that's all you need to know. You keep getting examples and you just qualify them or simply make declaratory statements.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why? You're going to sidestep them anyway.

Clyde came back from the IR, didn't get activated for the SB. "Well we had better options..."

Thuney misses an extra game with the ankle injury "Well he can't take any chances with Mahomes..."

Jones warms up for a playoff game but doesn't play "Well that was the training staff..."

Tyreek Hill hurts his shoulder, returns to practice on October 2nd, doesn't play that week; returns on October 13th - "But he went to the hospital..."

I'm not going to go through the injury reports and feed them to you. It's stupid. You know what you know and by god that's all you need to know. You keep getting examples and you just qualify them or simply make declaratory statements.

No I just asked for good examples not involving hamstrings.

And hey since you know those guys were ready to play earlier than they eventually played (speaking of knowing what you know and don't need to know anything more) I guess there isn't anything left to discuss.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

No I just asked for good examples not involving hamstrings.

And hey since you know those guys were ready to play earlier than they eventually played (speaking of knowing what you know and don't need to know anything more) I guess there isn't anything left to discuss.

Pretty convenient that no matter if he plays or not your declared the loser How about each injury I'd different and is evaluated as such. Comparing different types and degrees of injuries is pure foolish

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Give me a good example outside of a hamstring injury.

Eric Haglund Berry

They held him out until the AFC Championship Game.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Eric Haglund Berry

They held him out until the AFC Championship Game.

And we watched Gronk school a shell of what Berry had become.