Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Did you watch that game? What happened was They were marching on the Tits. Lamar threw a pass to Andrews in the redzone that went right off of Andrews hands into a defenders hands. A few plays later Titns score. A little while later defense couldn't stop Henry amd he gets into the red area. A Henry Jump has to Hunter Henry later the Tits where up no multiple scores. Up until this season the biggest Flaw in Lamars game was feeling he had to do everything. The FO didn't do him any favors and giving him weapons so he began to press and the TOs happened.

The biggest flaw in Lamar's game is passing.

Lamar had a 1.5 INT rate in 2019. His INT rate this year? 1.5%.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So we're going to ignore anything he did in the score getting out of hand but give him full credit for garbage time stats he racked up AFTER it did so...

Okay.

He talked to his OC at halftime and told him the appropriate adjustments to rack up meaningless garbage time stats. He's a savant, dude.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I studied long with the wise master Vlad Logicslav. He taught me many posting powers that some would find … unnatural.

But they serve me well.

[Rainbarrel]

This AIDS tree has grown several fat rings since: "Lamar was immediate MVP" WTF

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

The biggest flaw in Lamar's game is passing.

Lamar had a 1.5 INT rate in 2019. His INT rate this year? 1.5%.

Eh - Tebow never threw picks because he was too damn inaccurate to do so.

Interceptions are more about decisionmaking than anything and in that regard, I do think Jackson has improved. Hell, his ball placement has made its way to average.

He is a better passer than he was in 2019. And a 1.5 int rate is actually pretty damn good. It's worse than the best we've seen from Patrick (2020 was pretty pinpoint in that regard) but better than his worst (frankly, this season).

Int's aren't any sort of bugaboo for Jackson. It's small windows. He doesn't have the hose to fire one into a window as it closes. He doesn't read defenses at a high enough level to 'throw guys open' as they're making their breaks with regularity.

Sticky coverage will give him a lot of problems. He needs to get DBs guessing as he runs around to create openings. He needs to have confusion in the secondary because of play actions and what not. He's just not a guy that's going to routinely beat good coverage like Mahomes can do.

But really, very little of that is going to show up in stats because he generally doesn't have to do that. His legs create space in the defensive secondary for the reasons I suggested above.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I studied long with the wise master Vlad Logicslav. He taught me many posting powers that some would find … unnatural.

But they serve me well.

It’s a shame he never even came close to witnessing this era of Chiefs football.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

The biggest flaw in Lamar's game is passing.

Lamar had a 1.5 INT rate in 2019. His INT rate this year? 1.5%.

Those are GREAT numbers by Lamar. He was at 3.4% in the 2021 season, so pretty massive improvement to get it down to 1.5% in the 2023 season.

Mahomes was at 2.3% this season and 1.85% last season as MVP. He was also around 2% in his 2018 MVP season. I would like to see Patrick get back down to 1.5% like he was in the 2019 and 2020 seasons.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - Tebow never threw picks because he was too damn inaccurate to do so.

Interceptions are more about decisionmaking than anything and in that regard, I do think Jackson has improved. Hell, his ball placement has made its way to average.

He is a better passer than he was in 2019. And a 1.5 int rate is actually pretty damn good. It's worse than the best we've seen from Patrick (2020 was pretty pinpoint in that regard) but better than his worst (frankly, this season).

Int's aren't any sort of bugaboo for Jackson. It's small windows. He doesn't have the hose to fire one into a window as it closes. He doesn't read defenses at a high enough level to 'throw guys open' as they're making their breaks with regularity.

Sticky coverage will give him a lot of problems. He needs to get DBs guessing as he runs around to create openings. He needs to have confusion in the secondary because of play actions and what not. He's just not a guy that's going to routinely beat good coverage like Mahomes can do.

But really, very little of that is going to show up in stats because he generally doesn't have to do that. His legs create space in the defensive secondary for the reasons I suggested above.

You misunderstood my post. I agree with everything you said. My post was intended to contradict that Lamar was pressing in the Titans game because he "had to do it all himself that year and it lead to interceptions"...

He just isn't a volume passer and when he gets asked to be a volume passer he folds. Laundry Jackson.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

nah d9nt need a cookie I was told I could talk when we drafted a GOAT, i gues I can talk now

Syntax Genius...

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Syntax Genius...

Savant - syntax savant.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Those are GREAT numbers by Lamar. He was at 3.4% in the 2021 season, so pretty massive improvement to get it down to 1.5% in the 2023 season.

Mahomes was at 2.3% this season and 1.85% last season as MVP. He was also around 2% in his 2018 MVP season. I would like to see Patrick get back down to 1.5% like he was in the 2019 and 2020 seasons.

The point is that he had a low int rate during the 2019 season "when he had no help" despite the ravens fan claiming that he was pressing in the Titans game because he had no help.

It's not a function of Lamar "having no help" its a function of Lamar being asked to win with his arm. If asked to win with his arm he can't do it consistently, with "help" or not.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

The point is that he had a low int rate during the 2019 season "when he had no help" despite the ravens fan claiming that he was pressing in the Titans game because he had no help.

It's not a function of Lamar "having no help" its a function of Lamar being asked to win with his arm. If asked to win with his arm he can't do it consistently, with "help" or not.

None of the teams in the league are good enough to put Baltimore in a desperation passing situation. Even if Kansas City or one of the NFC teams are lucky enough to beat the Ravens, I would expect the Ravens to continue running their balanced offense for all 4 quarters instead of turning into the Air Raid.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

It’s a shame he never even came close to witnessing this era of Chiefs football.

Too many fall into that category.

Iam just glad my old man wasn’t one of them.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

Savant - syntax savant.

Yes.... rubs hands together.... Yes...

[digger]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Only on Planet Chief is Ray Lewis not an all time great.

He's great at killing...