Chris Jones watch...

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Based on your justification of Pat not getting injured, we may as well have signed him for $40M per year. They are going to have to restructure a bunch of contracts like Taylor's and/or trade Sneed to sign Jones. And that all depends on if anyone is even willing to restructure.

What? If we were paying Taylor $40 you may have a point, but Taylor is worth $20 per... again, what was your plan for last year if we didn't sign Taylor? Sneed is 95% gone, Veech will pull the trigger for a 2 or even a high 3 if we need to sign Jones. They haven't even made some of their cuts yet. Again, Taylor's contract has nothing to do with signing Jones and those who think Taylor's contract is shitty are football stupid.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

What? Taylor is worth $20 per... again, what was your plan for last year if we didn't sign Taylor? Sneed is 95% gone, Veech will pull the trigger for a 2 or even a high 3 if we need to sign Jones. They haven't even made some of their cuts yet. Again, Taylor's contract has nothing to do with signing Jones and those who think Taylor's contract is shitty are football stupid.

i would have taken my chances with someone in the draft. All I’m saying is the Taylor contract was not worth it if the Chiefs don’t do any more restructuring or trades. he was cheap last year, but the cap hit is pretty big for the next 3 years. the guy gave of pressures. mahomes’ scrambling ability made Taylor look better than he was.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

i would have taken my chances with someone in the draft. All I’m saying is the Taylor contract was not worth it if the Chiefs don’t do any more restructuring or trades. he was cheap last year, but the cap hit is pretty big for the next 3 years. the guy gave of pressures. mahomes’ scrambling ability made Taylor look better than he was.

You understand Taylor's contract structure is one of the reasons we were able to keep Chris last year? As far as Tackle, Wayna Morris was the 3rd Tackle taken after pick 32, and that include Mauch, from NDSU, that is playing Guard in the NFL. So you would have started Morris? Trade up with a 2nd into the first and get a Tackle but lose Rashee Rice?

Not trying to fight, but I hate folks who don't like Taylor but don't have a coherent answer on what we could have done differently that would have kept Pat upright.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You understand Taylor's contract structure is one of the reasons we were able to keep Chris last year? As far as Tackle, Wayna Morris was the 3rd Tackle taken after pick 32, and that include Mauch, from NDSU, that is playing Guard in the NFL. So you would have started Morris?

Not trying to fight, but I hate folks who don't like Taylor but don't have a coherent answer on what we could have done differently that would have kept Pat upright.

there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.

McGlinchey? No, no he wasn’t good last year at all. Not sure what metric you are using, but he was worse for his cost than Taylor. Overall Taylor started rough but consistently got better as the season went on.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by tredadda

McGlinchey? No, no he wasn’t good last year at all. Not sure what metric you are using, but he was worse for his cost than Taylor. Overall Taylor started rough but consistently got better as the season went on.

and he's 26...

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

and he's 26...

Ask the Bengals what not doing enough to protect their QB has gotten them. You could argue he holds the ball too long, but Brown Jr and Jonah Williams were not good. I would take Smith and Taylor over those two 10 out of 10 times.

Unless you can get a blue chip Tackle in the draft (which is very hard where KC drafts), you have to get your guys in FA until a later pick can possibly develop. You don’t protect the best player in the league with later round rookie T’s and hope it works out.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by tredadda

McGlinchey? No, no he wasn’t good last year at all. Not sure what metric you are using, but he was worse for his cost than Taylor. Overall Taylor started rough but consistently got better as the season went on.

The **** is that dude smoking McGlinchey

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.

Neither one of those guys had the experience Taylor did playing Left tackle and wouldn't have been able to move to the Left side if needed. McClinchey is also 3 years older signed a 5 year deal where he will be 34 when it's done, and basically signed a similar deal. Taylor was 26. McGary was 2 years older, very average in 2022, about as good as Whylie, and signed with his current team, and again, no experience playing LT. So again, stop with the Taylor contract sucks so we can't sign Jones BS...

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

McGary was 2 years older, very average in 2022, about as good as Whylie, and signed with his current team, and again, no experience playing LT. So again, stop with the Taylor contract sucks so we can't sign Jones BS...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.

Mc Glinchey is ****ing awful. Why are NFL fans so stupid?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

i would have taken my chances with someone in the draft. All I’m saying is the Taylor contract was not worth it if the Chiefs don’t do any more restructuring or trades. he was cheap last year, but the cap hit is pretty big for the next 3 years. the guy gave of pressures. mahomes’ scrambling ability made Taylor look better than he was.

So your plan would’ve been to ignore the OL during the core of free agency and go into the draft with no LT or RT and hope someone we liked fell to us?

Wow. That’s…wow.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

So your plan would’ve been to ignore the OL during the core of free agency and go into the draft with no LT or RT and hope someone we liked fell to us?



Wow. That’s…wow.

Yea to me it's clear that Taylor was the best option left. KC overpaid but it is what it is. OBJr decided to go elsewhere for less money that what he was offered the year before.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Yea to me it's clear that Taylor was the best option left. KC overpaid but it is what it is. OBJr decided to go elsewhere for less money that what he was offered the year before.

$20 million is not overpaying. Wait until you see what the contracts are this year in FA. He was way better than people want to be playing in the AFC West with Bosa and Crosby primarily coming of the offenses right side.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

$20 million is not overpaying. Wait until you see what the contracts are this year in FA. He was way better than people want to be playing in the AFC West with Bosa and Crosby primarily coming of the offenses right side.

I think at the time of signing it was an overpay when considering what Wylie and OBJr signed elsewhere for, and what guys like Jones are getting paid. But yea given the increased cap and with Taylor continuing to progress I think it'll look reasonable when it's all said and done.