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Old 03-07-2024, 10:13 AM  
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:21 PM   #346
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i would have taken my chances with someone in the draft. All I’m saying is the Taylor contract was not worth it if the Chiefs don’t do any more restructuring or trades. he was cheap last year, but the cap hit is pretty big for the next 3 years. the guy gave of pressures. mahomes’ scrambling ability made Taylor look better than he was.
You understand Taylor's contract structure is one of the reasons we were able to keep Chris last year? As far as Tackle, Wayna Morris was the 3rd Tackle taken after pick 32, and that include Mauch, from NDSU, that is playing Guard in the NFL. So you would have started Morris? Trade up with a 2nd into the first and get a Tackle but lose Rashee Rice?

Not trying to fight, but I hate folks who don't like Taylor but don't have a coherent answer on what we could have done differently that would have kept Pat upright.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:38 PM   #347
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You understand Taylor's contract structure is one of the reasons we were able to keep Chris last year? As far as Tackle, Wayna Morris was the 3rd Tackle taken after pick 32, and that include Mauch, from NDSU, that is playing Guard in the NFL. So you would have started Morris?

Not trying to fight, but I hate folks who don't like Taylor but don't have a coherent answer on what we could have done differently that would have kept Pat upright.
there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:41 PM   #348
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Despite what many here think, I am not a big fan of extending Jones. In fact, he should've been the player tagged and not Sneed. Imagine the haul you would get for Jones?
You extend Sneed and secure the best corner tandem in the NFL for the next 3 seasons. Jones was inconsistent last season. His play will only dip going forward. He would've gotten us a 1st at minimum. We would use that pick to get a guy like Newton.
Not a fan of giving big extensions to guys almost 30 who aren't QBs. It rarely ever pays off.
KC wasn’t getting anything for Jones. No one would have ponied up picks for the right to pay him $30+ million a year. They would have called KCs bluff that they would not have kept the tag on him.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:49 PM   #349
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I wish the best for Jones and thank you! You got 3 SB rings! Not worth setting the franchise back, IMHO.

Now about Neil Smith. He came to Baton Rouge and did autograph signings at our local J.C. Pennys back in the day. My wife informed me after coming home from work of this event. We hauled ass to the store and stood in line patiently with everyone else. I had a picture that I wanted him to sign and when it was my turn he humbly signed it and I wished him the best of luck for next season. THE SON OF A BITCH signed with the Broncos before said season started! I was so pissed! Looking back, **** him!

Today, that is a past experience that, at the time, was cool and the CHIEFS moved on.
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there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.
McGlinchey? No, no he wasn’t good last year at all. Not sure what metric you are using, but he was worse for his cost than Taylor. Overall Taylor started rough but consistently got better as the season went on.
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The fact Pat re-tweeted the screenshot still has me hoping that some deal is done and they just holding off on announcing it to keep leverage with the Sneed situation.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:58 PM   #352
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there were better options in free agency at RT last year like kaleb mcggary. he was outstanding for atlanta last year. mike mcglinchey too would have been better. both cheaper than taylor.
Neither one of those guys had the experience Taylor did playing Left tackle and wouldn't have been able to move to the Left side if needed. McClinchey is also 3 years older signed a 5 year deal where he will be 34 when it's done, and basically signed a similar deal. Taylor was 26. McGary was 2 years older, very average in 2022, about as good as Whylie, and signed with his current team, and again, no experience playing LT. So again, stop with the Taylor contract sucks so we can't sign Jones BS...
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i would have taken my chances with someone in the draft. All I’m saying is the Taylor contract was not worth it if the Chiefs don’t do any more restructuring or trades. he was cheap last year, but the cap hit is pretty big for the next 3 years. the guy gave of pressures. mahomes’ scrambling ability made Taylor look better than he was.
So your plan would’ve been to ignore the OL during the core of free agency and go into the draft with no LT or RT and hope someone we liked fell to us?

Wow. That’s…wow.
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Old 03-08-2024, 07:59 PM   #354
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McGlinchey? No, no he wasn’t good last year at all. Not sure what metric you are using, but he was worse for his cost than Taylor. Overall Taylor started rough but consistently got better as the season went on.
and he's 26...
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Old 03-08-2024, 08:02 PM   #355
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I hope we sign Jones because he’s elite. Best DT in the game. We need him.

If we don’t sign him, he was never that good anyway. Better without him.
Jones is a beast. He's a great player I don't think anyone is denying that.

But can the Chiefs win without him? Yes I believe they can.
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What’s your pivot if Chris Jones leaves? I think I’d go after Danielle Hunter for a 3 year deal and also go after Sheldon Rankins for around $12-13 million while nagging a WR.
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And here in Jax Josh Allen got tagged. He couldn't hold Jones' jock. Chris is special.
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So your plan would’ve been to ignore the OL during the core of free agency and go into the draft with no LT or RT and hope someone we liked fell to us?



Wow. That’s…wow.
Yea to me it's clear that Taylor was the best option left. KC overpaid but it is what it is. OBJr decided to go elsewhere for less money that what he was offered the year before.
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and he's 26...
Ask the Bengals what not doing enough to protect their QB has gotten them. You could argue he holds the ball too long, but Brown Jr and Jonah Williams were not good. I would take Smith and Taylor over those two 10 out of 10 times.

Unless you can get a blue chip Tackle in the draft (which is very hard where KC drafts), you have to get your guys in FA until a later pick can possibly develop. You don’t protect the best player in the league with later round rookie T’s and hope it works out.
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And here in Jax Josh Allen got tagged. He couldn't hold Jones' jock. Chris is special.
Jones is elite and no one is arguing that. Almost no one wants KC to lose him. But there is one player and only one player who is practically irreplaceable on this team and it’s not Jones.
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