McAfee: "Source(s) tell me that Veach maybe isn't done..."

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

How'd they move $5 million from Taylor's deal, add $900k from Uche and still have less than 500k in cap space?

What math am I missing here?

It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.

He’s probably just factoring in Lattimore but forgetting the trade hasn’t been announced yet.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

He’s probably just factoring in Lattimore but forgetting the trade hasn’t been announced yet.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.

Not really.

Derrick has made some pretty shitty miscalculations in the past trying to discuss the cap. He was among the worst offenders in the "We get Frank Clark for Free" debacle when he was just flat-ass misstating how all the numbers would work.

And I get that sometimes the publicly available numbers are iffy. But ultimately the league wouldn't have allowed us to make the Hopkins deal if it put us over the cap. So we know that AT WORST, when the Hopkins deal was completed we were at zero.

And the Taylor restructure came after that. Which would've put us at least as much over as he moved off through base salary. We don't know what that was, but the reports have all been in the $5 million range.

I mean just doing simple dollar in, dollar out, zero-based sort of math here suggests we HAVE to have more than that, no? Unless there's been some other internal cap finagling we don't know about. Or someone is treating NLTBE incentives as LTBE and accruing them on the cap this season.

It just doesn't make any sense to me.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Not really.

Derrick has made some pretty shitty miscalculations in the past trying to discuss the cap. He was among the worst offenders in the "We get Frank Clark for Free" debacle when he was just flat-ass misstating how all the numbers would work.

And I get that sometimes the publicly available numbers are iffy. But ultimately the league wouldn't have allowed us to make the Hopkins deal if it put us over the cap. So we know that AT WORST, when the Hopkins deal was completed we were at zero.

And the Taylor restructure came after that. Which would've put us at least as much over as he moved off through base salary. We don't know what that was, but the reports have all been in the $5 million range.

I mean just doing simple dollar in, dollar out, zero-based sort of math here suggests we HAVE to have more than that, no? Unless there's been some other internal cap finagling we don't know about. Or someone is treating NLTBE incentives as LTBE and accruing them on the cap this season.

It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Well no I don't mean Derrick, but I checked the NFLPA report and it does say just $255k. But in no way does that make any damn sense to me.

I figure they haven't calculated Jawaan's deal in or something. You can't get through the season at $255k.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Well no I don't mean Derrick, but I checked the NFLPA report and it does say just $255k. But in no way does that make any damn sense to me.

I figure they haven't calculated Jawaan's deal in or something. You can't get through the season at $255k.

Even the NFLPA report lacks internal consistency (as per my previous post).

There's something here that isn't working right.

Look at the Dolphins on that report, for example.

Virtually the same exact carryover as we have ($1.14 million) and a nearly identical cap carry figure ($251.4 million) so a little less carry over and a little less on their actual cap, but mostly that all washes out.

And the Dolphins, per the NFLPA report, have $5.3 million in cap space.

Something there simply isn't right.