2024's Red zone failures

[Megatron96]

Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

[Easy 6]

We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage

That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.

Yep, that one little shift wrecked the whole damn play

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Andy doesn't love running the ball. I'm not counting shovel passes or WR reverses as runs. It's just not in his mindset.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Andy doesn't love running the ball. I'm not counting shovel passes or WR reverses as runs. It's just not in his mindset.

Yeah, I know.

Love Andy, but wish he would just RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially when your OT's suck ass, and you have TWO really good RB's.

If for nothing else, go run heavy so that when you DO pass the ball, you've slowed the pass rush down a little and play-action will work.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Yeah, I know.

Love Andy, but wish he would just RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially when your OT's suck ass, and you have TWO really good RB's.

If for nothing else, go run heavy so that when you DO pass the ball, you've slowed the pass rush down a little and play-action will work.

Reid: We're getting a lot of pressure to run the ball in the red zone. Let's line up Kelce in the shotgun. Direct snap. He'll RPO to Worthy in motion right to left then pitch it to Mahomes who's standing to the right of Kelce, who will then hand it off to Hardman who comes from the left.

That should shut them up for a week.

[RINGLEADER]

Mahomes has missed a lot of wide open receivers for short and long TDs this season but I don’t blame him for most of it. I think playing without a LT really affects his timing a lot more than most realize or Mahomes will admit.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

The offensive line didn't get any push at all. The running game was ass on Friday and that's why they abandoned it. Can't be in 3rd and 8 all the time.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The offensive line didn't get any push at all. The running game was ass on Friday and that's why they abandoned it. Can't be in 3rd and 8 all the time.

Someone should let Andy know they discovered several different types of rushes, and that it's not against the rules to call something other than hb blast.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

I would agree most any week. But Friday we were running for 1.9yds/carry, so I can't blame Andy for trying to pivot.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I would agree most any week. But Friday we were running for 1.9yds/carry, so I can't blame Andy for trying to pivot.

That’s pretty much what Andy said. But his short passing game didn’t seem to be there either.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

That’s pretty much what Andy said. But his short passing game didn’t seem to be there either.

Yeah. OTs and the IOL both were inconsistent, to say the least, which didn't help at all. JJSS seems to be invisible in the RZ, and most anywhere else for that matter. We need the OL to do better, and someone else besides Nuk has to step up a little.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

That’s pretty much what Andy said. But his short passing game didn’t seem to be there either.

No, it didn't. It's puzzling that we consistently are inconsistent in the RZ, considering that Andy is an offensive genius.

I mean, look at TB for instance. They get into the RZ at a high rate, about 4 times/gm, good enough for third-best in the league, and then they convert TDs at a 3rd or 4th-best rate as well, about 66%.

And that's even without Evans and Godwin, with a middling IOL, and a RB1 that's not very good running between the tackles. But they run the ball well in the RZ and score most of their points from within the RZ.

Tbh, I've been kind of hoping Andy's been checking them out and stealing some of their RZ plays, particularly their run plays.