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Old 02-13-2025, 06:45 PM   #1
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Regardless if this is a real issue or not, it seems clear that the offensive staff needs an infusion of innovation and creativity.

Remember just a few years ago when our play design was the envy of the league? Everything is so vanilla and predictable now. Where in the world did amazing schemer Andy Reid go?

We have a room full of conservative pussies right now in guys like this dude and Nagy who don’t seem to be adding anything useful to the offense.

Andy needs to either rediscover his magic or jettison some of these coaches and try to find a Ben Johnson type to come in here and maximize Mahomes’ ability.

Because right now it is being wasted.
Andy is one of the greatest offensive play callers in NFL history and a tremendous head coach.

But I think age is catching up to him.

We no longer seem to have an edge on the offensive side. Most weeks the team we are playing knows our plays as well as we do.

There have been two great updates since Mahomes took over.

One was Mahomes first year where Andy got to merge the best of the West Coach Offense and the college spread with the verticals that had been missing with Alex at QB and terrified the NFL.

Then in 2021 teams basically said we won't let you do those, beat us 8-15 yards at a time.

In 2022 we came back and mastered that offense which was more modernized West Coast to attack shell.

Since that year we have been just kind of floundering on offense with no identity or things that we do that just work.
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Old 02-13-2025, 06:53 PM   #2
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Andy is one of the greatest offensive play callers in NFL history and a tremendous head coach.

But I think age is catching up to him.

We no longer seem to have an edge on the offensive side. Most weeks the team we are playing knows our plays as well as we do.

There have been two great updates since Mahomes took over.

One was Mahomes first year where Andy got to merge the best of the West Coach Offense and the college spread with the verticals that had been missing with Alex at QB and terrified the NFL.

Then in 2021 teams basically said we won't let you do those, beat us 8-15 yards at a time.

In 2022 we came back and mastered that offense which was more modernized West Coast to attack shell.

Since that year we have been just kind of floundering on offense with no identity or things that we do that just work.
We just made our 3rd consecutive SB with a makeshift OL and last week against the Bills he put on a clinic?

What?
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Old 02-13-2025, 06:55 PM   #3
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We just made our 3rd consecutive SB with a makeshift OL and last week against the Bills he put on a clinic?

What?


The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:00 PM   #4
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The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.
And Buffalo was a mediocre defense… before they were missing key players to injury.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:02 PM   #5
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And Buffalo was a mediocre defense… before they were missing key players to injury.
Who knows, maybe Andy Reid had devised his masterpiece for the second half of the SB this year because he thought it would be a close game.


But with Mahomes going off the reservation, the OL getting bum rushed, the WR's and Kelce dropping everything, and the playcalling asking for longer developing routes when the OL could not hold for 2 seconds, game ended before we could see it.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:01 PM   #6
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The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.
And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

I’m sorry it takes you longer than most to see the big picture. I realize choosing Worthy over Mitchell still bothers you as you didn’t recognize a clear alpha WR when he was in our grasp until late in the season.

Maybe stop being a prisoner of the moment.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:04 PM   #7
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And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

I’m sorry it takes you longer than most to see the big picture. I realize choosing Worthy over Mitchell still bothers you as you didn’t recognize a clear alpha WR when he was in our grasp until late in the season.

Maybe stop being a prisoner of the moment.
Not at all.


Nice attempt to change the subject again because, as usual, you have nothing interesting or insightful to say.


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Old 02-13-2025, 07:06 PM   #8
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Not all.


Nice attempt to change the subject again because, as usual, you have nothing interesting or insightful to say.


We were 17-2 in games this past year in contests where we tried. Many of which we lacked a functional OL.

Please compare that to prior years and document the degradation of Reid’s abilities so we can discuss that point.
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We were 17-2 in games this past year in contests where we tried. Many of which we lacked a functional OL.

Please compare that to prior years and document the degradation of Reid’s abilities so we can discuss that point.


Offense sucked. Mahomes was exceptional late in the games and on 3rd down this year which saved the pedestrian playcalling and enhanced our record.
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And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.
The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.
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The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.
I've praised this run like 20 times since the game but Clown Boy just makes shit up.
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The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.
Is it easy to run a west coast offense when your top two receivers aren’t in the system and your LT isn’t playing at an NFL level? How would other coaches have done?
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Is it easy to run a west coast offense when your top two receivers aren’t in the system and your LT isn’t playing at an NFL level? How would other coaches have done?
Whose fault was it that the Chiefs went into a season with two LT’s who were incapable of playing at an NFL level?

Also do you think that fixing the LT position and getting a healthy Rice back are all that’s needed to return this offense to an elite level?
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Florida education... where focusing on the past instead of what happened 4 days ago is called "prisoner of the moment".


We've done it, we've reached peak offseason reerunation.


Healing can begin.
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