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Old 03-23-2025, 07:18 AM   #1
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Imo, JuJu doesn't move the needle at all. He caught just 18 balls for 231 yds in 14 games last season. At best, he's a weak WR4 or a WR5. he's regressed to being Skyy in his 2nd year. he can block and that's about it.
What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together.
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Old 03-23-2025, 10:17 AM   #2
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What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together.
This, all day.

It sucks not knowing Rice's status for the season, both health wise and regarding a possible suspension. Throw that on top of the fact Hollywood hasn't played a full season since '21, and it's easy to feel like if either Burden or Egbuka are there, one of them will be the pick. Fortunately, there are good candidates down draft to consider (Jalen Royals) if we go another direction, but man do I like the thought of our top four eventually being Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, and Burden/Egbuka.
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Old 03-23-2025, 04:20 PM   #3
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What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together.


1000%. We didn't do that last season. Instead, we had JWat out there for 90% of our offensive snaps for no reason. But I'm hoping that that changes in 2025.
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Old 03-24-2025, 05:51 AM   #4
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1000%. We didn't do that last season. Instead, we had JWat out there for 90% of our offensive snaps for no reason. But I'm hoping that that changes in 2025.
Oh FOR ****SSAKE

No reason?
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Oh FOR ****SSAKE

No reason?



JWat: 17 Gs, 32 catches, 289yds, 2 TDs 13 1stDns, 686 snaps. The only WR with more snaps was Worthy. he had nearly twice as many snaps as DHop for far less production. 260+ more snaps than JJSS.



Just compare those numbers vs. any Wr 1 or WR2 in the league. He was basically invisible.


He's a nice guy. He brings his lunch pail and does whatever is asked of him. Except be efficient and/or productive.


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to which I agreed, so I don't see what you're upset about. JWat clearly wasn't one of our top-3 WRs, except in the area of snaps. In every other metric he clearly was our 4th or 5th best WR.
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JWat: 17 Gs, 32 catches, 289yds, 2 TDs 13 1stDns, 686 snaps. The only WR with more snaps was Worthy. he had nearly twice as many snaps as DHop for far less production. 260+ more snaps than JJSS.



Just compare those numbers vs. any Wr 1 or WR2 in the league. He was basically invisible.


He's a nice guy. He brings his lunch pail and does whatever is asked of him. Except be efficient and/or productive.


And you literally wrote to which I agreed, so I don't see what you're upset about. JWat clearly wasn't one of our top-3 WRs, except in the area of snaps. In every other metric he clearly was our 4th or 5th best WR.

Watson’s snap count was only that high because, other than Worthy, he was the only WR on the roster who was healthy all season.

Rice played 3 games.

Hopkins was acquired midseason and then used at a lower level.

Brown played 3 games in December.

Smith-Schuster was with the team all year but missed time to injury, too, and plays a different role in the offense than Watson, to boot.
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Old 03-24-2025, 06:16 PM   #7
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JWat: 17 Gs, 32 catches, 289yds, 2 TDs 13 1stDns, 686 snaps. The only WR with more snaps was Worthy. he had nearly twice as many snaps as DHop for far less production. 260+ more snaps than JJSS.



Just compare those numbers vs. any Wr 1 or WR2 in the league. He was basically invisible.


He's a nice guy. He brings his lunch pail and does whatever is asked of him. Except be efficient and/or productive.


And you literally wrote to which I agreed, so I don't see what you're upset about. JWat clearly wasn't one of our top-3 WRs, except in the area of snaps. In every other metric he clearly was our 4th or 5th best WR.
blah, blah, blah.

Watson played so much because Rice went down in week 4, after Brown went down in the first preseason game and Worthy was a rookie.

DHop showed up mid-season and had a couple of decent games and then looked old and tired.

Juju has one functional knee.

so Watson is always available, and nobody else was, and THAT is why he played so much, and that's a very DEFINITE reason that makes perfect sense.
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blah, blah, blah.

Watson played so much because Rice went down in week 4, after Brown went down in the first preseason game and Worthy was a rookie.

DHop showed up mid-season and had a couple of decent games and then looked old and tired.

Juju has one functional knee.

so Watson is always available, and nobody else was, and THAT is why he played so much, and that's a very DEFINITE reason that makes perfect sense.


Hey, whatever. Season's over. Andy did what he did, for whatever reasons. We'll never really know. Just figured that now we could at least finally be honest about it. Guess not.

But if we were talking about the Raiders putting Jwat out there as much or more than Davante Adams or Jakobi Myers we'd all be laughing our collective asses off at just how epically stupid the Raiders were.


Bottom line, I was agreeing with you. Put the best players on the field as much as possible. Players over plays.
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Hey, whatever. Season's over. Andy did what he did, for whatever reasons. We'll never really know. Just figured that now we could at least finally be honest about it. Guess not.

But if we were talking about the Raiders putting Jwat out there as much or more than Davante Adams or Jakobi Myers we'd all be laughing our collective asses off at just how epically stupid the Raiders were.


Bottom line, I was agreeing with you. Put the best players on the field as much as possible. Players over plays.

Are you trying to be obtuse?

“Be honest”?

The honest truth is his snap count was as high as it was because two guys on the depth chart in front of Watson at the start of the season played a combined six of 34 possible games, Hopkins was acquired midseason and still was even with him on snaps, and Smith-Schuster missed a quarter of the season to injury.

When WR 1 and 2 go down before the season even begins, of course WR4’s snaps elevate.
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Hey, whatever. Season's over. Andy did what he did, for whatever reasons. We'll never really know. Just figured that now we could at least finally be honest about it. Guess not.

But if we were talking about the Raiders putting Jwat out there as much or more than Davante Adams or Jakobi Myers we'd all be laughing our collective asses off at just how epically stupid the Raiders were.


Bottom line, I was agreeing with you. Put the best players on the field as much as possible. Players over plays.
What the **** nonsense is this? I mean, really, dude.

Are you trying to say that Andy Reid had Davante Adams and Jacobi Meyers available to him all season long and just played Watson for some unknown reason?

I mean, we all know that you LOVE Dhop, but he didn't even get to the team until mid-season. Worthy was a rookie who's snaps increased as the season went on, which is expected. What WAS NOT expected is losing Brown for nearly the entire season and Rice for all but the first 3 games.

This isn't hard. It's no conspiracy. Watson was slated to be the number 4 or 5, and injuries meant he had to play much, much more than anticipated.

You're just being ridiculous here. It's like you refused to look at context or reality whatsoever. It's delusional.
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What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together.
They won’t. I’d say there’s about a 10% chance bc we can all agree Rashee is getting suspended. Goodell will **** us again.

Also Hollywood is always hurt. Great for the price but he’s not played a full season since he was on the Ravens in 2021.

WR has to be one of the first 3 picks IMO
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