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I just don't get the Simmons to KC stuff. I can't fathom this team taking that chance in round 1. If it's what they do, I guess. I feel like the late 2nd is about a round early on Norman-Lott but who knows for sure on that one. I do like him, but he lacks experience. I feel like there will be better options at that pick. I'd like him more in the 3rd. I think you can work with him. Wouldn't hate it though. Ayomanor is a guy I don't know if he fits in this offense really well, too straight tline, and the drops are a very real thing. Doesn't feel like something we'd go after in the 2nd round. Maybe the 4th round on that type. Blue is probably a 5th or 6th rounder, talent doesn't equate with his speed at all. 3rd is way too high. I don't think he's a guy Reid would sign off on with the fumbling issues. Rucker is meh. Short frame, short arms. I don't think that will play with Spags. I get that Danna has been a guy here who's played, but he's kind of an enigma. Buchanan is probably a 5th-rounder, could even sneak into the 4th. He's a really solid LB. I don't know why he'd slip to the end of the 7th round. I can't see it as even remotely realistic. Crawford is probably a 6th-rounder, could sneak into the 5th with his workout. A lot of teams have looked at him. No way he's the last pick in the draft. |
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Farmer is who I think the Chiefs really want in rd 2. They’ve spoken to him daily per Farmer himself. He’s not tall but he’s he’s got 35 arms, big hands, is strong as hell and has a really good first step. Omar Norman-Lott is contingency IMO. Still love the kid. Enormous hands (11+!!!) long enough arms, highest pass rush win rate. His value on passing downs alone would be great. Jaydon Blue is the best receiving back in this class and it isn’t close. The production and fluidity there is elite. He’d be an excellent 3rd down back with time (most of these kids need to get better at blocking). He’s gonna go in rd 4 bc of that and his speed. Of course Etienne, Smith, Etc are options there too. The Chiefs had zero explosion or playmaking from their backs which is why Andy utilized Worthy there so often. Not big on the Ayomanor kid. I’d take Royals but I don’t hate him. Roberts is one my favorite Spags edges. And goddamn do I love Buchanan and Crawford. They’re really good for day 3 IMO. Love their fit here.
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I just don’t see any way a good medical staff CAN sign off on Simmons. The historical precedent is so bad, I don’t see a way you can ignore the data.
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The player who was in that conversation was Banks. He's inexplicably been overanalyzed, and not a single reason seems to be legitimate for his stock tanking. Meanwhile, Campbell has maintained #1 status with a legitimate reason not to. Conerly was beginning to get that talk, and then the Mike Green thing happened at the Senior Bowl, and he went from top-20 rankings (13 on McShay's board) to dropping out of round 1 on some, all for 1 meaningless practice snap. |
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I mean damn - he pretty much said the exact same thing I did, didn't he? Right down to the Banks thing (seriously, why the hell is Banks slipping? I don't think that's real). Well I said it a week ago and nobody responded so I'm still taking credit for it....
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Supply and demand is why I think this. Not saying Simmons is an elite prospect. I think he’s good, and quite honestly there’s a tremendous amount of value in that, especially this year. Average LT’s are in huge demand bc there just aren’t very many good ones. It may be worse than QB now bc at least functional QB’s are attainable. Campbell’s T-Rex arms are a huge deal. I’d bet money that he wouldn’t even be on KC’s draft board bc of that. Simmons is the only LT prospect in this draft that has what teams are looking for as a complete package at LT. Size, strength, arm length (34 at pro day), technique, footwork. The projection is there despite missing time. Maybe Conerly can be that guy. Maybe. There’s a reason Dane Brugler has Kelvin Banks as a G in his draft guide. A ton of NFL folks think that. Again there’s always going to be a huge need for competent LT’s. They are exceedingly hard to find these days. And it wouldn’t surprise me if a team like Miami takes that risk with Simmons on Thursday bc of that need.
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He MIGHT have been a top 10 pick. Barely. IF he'd have made it through the conference schedule while demonstrating a progression that we simply never saw. He was late 2nd into late 3rd projected pick heading into the season. Anywhere from 50 to 100 on the lists I can find. Not a bad prospect, but by no means a stellar one and that was coming off a season as a starter at LT on a very good Ohio State team. If he were some home run 1st rounder, he'd have popped at that point. He didn't. Then he goes into the 2024 season, Ohio State beats the hell out of a few bad teams (where he mostly run blocks) and then he gets hurt. Meanwhile Ohio State barely misses a beat. There's just nohing THERE to demonstrate that he was a top 10 pick. It's pure projection based on beating bad teams. Because that WASN'T the projection on him heading into that season. It was like a lot of people just hit 'pause' on the season and decided that he was going to continue to ascend from when he got hurt. In no way that I can see is a better prospect, even when healthy, than Campbell. I don't think he's better then Membou and man why are so many people so down on Kelvin Banks? He looks better than the healthy version of Simmons and by a fair bit, IMO. A healthy Simmons MIGHT be the 4th best OT in this class. MIGHT be. He might also have gotten knocked around against the actual competition Ohio State played this season and ended up about where he started -- roughly where Donovan Jackson ended up. I just do not understand this idea that he's some obvious steal who fell because of injury and that injury notwithstanding, he's a blue-chip talent. No, he just wasn't.
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