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Old 04-21-2025, 05:47 PM   #1
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Yes. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that it is organized.

The beauty of a message board is that two people with contrasting opinions can share those opinions and participate in discussions regarding them. Wild right?


If you asked Veach privately he would probably admit they played hardball too much with Orlando based on how things went after.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:05 PM   #2
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If you asked Veach privately he would probably admit they played hardball too much with Orlando based on how things went after.
Something you'll learn as you become an adult is that some decisions don't work out the way you intend.

Doesn't mean you should second guess them forever.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:08 PM   #3
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Something you'll learn as you become an adult is that some decisions don't work out the way you intend.

Doesn't mean you should second guess them forever.
Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:14 PM   #4
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Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.
Yea, for OBJ, dumbass.

Exactly how is him later accepting less than what the Chiefs offered because he had a fake agent the Chiefs fault, reerun? The Chiefs should've just handed his amateur agent a blank check?
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It was bad for OBJ and bad for us.


Since he left we have thrown multiple drafts picks, signed FA's, and moved our star guard to LT in a SB where he melted down into slop.


It's been awful and a downgrade for us over a few million dollars.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:18 PM   #6
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It was bad for OBJ and bad for us.


Since he left we have thrown multiple drafts picks, signed FA's, and moved our star guard to LT in a SB where he melted down into slop.


It's been awful and a downgrade for us over a few million dollars.
Yea, the result was. You were trying to palace blame though. That's clearly on OBJ. Now you've moved the goalposts.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:23 PM   #7
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Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.
Does Brett Veach look like a bitch? Then why do you want him to act like a bitch?

He drew a line in the sand, Brown got in a huff and walked out, and ended up taking less elsewhere because HE is a bitch.

Shit happens.

doesn't mean Veach was wrong, it means Brown and his agent were stupid. The world is full of stupid and arrogant people.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:44 PM   #8
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Does Brett Veach look like a bitch? Then why do you want him to act like a bitch?

He drew a line in the sand, Brown got in a huff and walked out, and ended up taking less elsewhere because HE is a bitch.

Shit happens.

doesn't mean Veach was wrong, it means Brown and his agent were stupid. The world is full of stupid and arrogant people.


That's fine to make a stand on value but he drew the line too low.

We had just traded a slew of draft picks to get the guy and OBJ performed where Mahomes won MVP and scored 38 points in the SB to win SB and SB MVP.

Our offense has been shit since.

Of course I will grant that Matt Nagy arriving has played a role as well but the LT has never been as good since. And our offense went from #1 in the NFL in Points Per Play in 2022 to 14th last year.
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Old 04-22-2025, 12:28 PM   #9
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That's fine to make a stand on value but he drew the line too low.

We had just traded a slew of draft picks to get the guy and OBJ performed where Mahomes won MVP and scored 38 points in the SB to win SB and SB MVP.

Our offense has been shit since.

Of course I will grant that Matt Nagy arriving has played a role as well but the LT has never been as good since. And our offense went from #1 in the NFL in Points Per Play in 2022 to 14th last year.
I'd argue that Veach offered WAY too much to begin with!

Veach only gave up a 2nd round value for OBJ.....Tried to overpay him.....Signed the best FA on the market when OBJ left...

Oh and OBJ missed about half of last season with injury!
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Old 04-22-2025, 12:49 PM   #10
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I'd argue that Veach offered WAY too much to begin with!

Veach only gave up a 2nd round value for OBJ.....Tried to overpay him.....Signed the best FA on the market when OBJ left...

Oh and OBJ missed about half of last season with injury!


Not having a competent LT last year doesn't make it look like a sharp calculation.


Turns out finding a player as good as Orlando was not as easy as CP insisted it would be.
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