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Old 04-21-2025, 06:44 PM   #1
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Does Brett Veach look like a bitch? Then why do you want him to act like a bitch?

He drew a line in the sand, Brown got in a huff and walked out, and ended up taking less elsewhere because HE is a bitch.

Shit happens.

doesn't mean Veach was wrong, it means Brown and his agent were stupid. The world is full of stupid and arrogant people.


That's fine to make a stand on value but he drew the line too low.

We had just traded a slew of draft picks to get the guy and OBJ performed where Mahomes won MVP and scored 38 points in the SB to win SB and SB MVP.

Our offense has been shit since.

Of course I will grant that Matt Nagy arriving has played a role as well but the LT has never been as good since. And our offense went from #1 in the NFL in Points Per Play in 2022 to 14th last year.
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Old 04-22-2025, 12:28 PM   #2
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That's fine to make a stand on value but he drew the line too low.

We had just traded a slew of draft picks to get the guy and OBJ performed where Mahomes won MVP and scored 38 points in the SB to win SB and SB MVP.

Our offense has been shit since.

Of course I will grant that Matt Nagy arriving has played a role as well but the LT has never been as good since. And our offense went from #1 in the NFL in Points Per Play in 2022 to 14th last year.
I'd argue that Veach offered WAY too much to begin with!

Veach only gave up a 2nd round value for OBJ.....Tried to overpay him.....Signed the best FA on the market when OBJ left...

Oh and OBJ missed about half of last season with injury!
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Old 04-22-2025, 12:49 PM   #3
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I'd argue that Veach offered WAY too much to begin with!

Veach only gave up a 2nd round value for OBJ.....Tried to overpay him.....Signed the best FA on the market when OBJ left...

Oh and OBJ missed about half of last season with injury!


Not having a competent LT last year doesn't make it look like a sharp calculation.


Turns out finding a player as good as Orlando was not as easy as CP insisted it would be.
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Old 04-22-2025, 01:13 PM   #4
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Not having a competent LT last year doesn't make it look like a sharp calculation.


Turns out finding a player as good as Orlando was not as easy as CP insisted it would be.
I'd argue that Donovan Smith DID in fact replace OBJ just fine and it was the 2024 off season that Veach didn't do enough.

OBJ should not even be talked about. Keeping Donovan Smith on for 1 more year should be the conversation.
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I'd argue that Donovan Smith DID in fact replace OBJ just fine and it was the 2024 off season that Veach didn't do enough.

OBJ should not even be talked about. Keeping Donovan Smith on for 1 more year should be the conversation.
He wasn't always available but was good enough to help us make a run for the SB and win it.


Of course our last SB win was a strange year in which our defense was lights out and our offense went 15-16 straight drives in the AFC Championship and SB without scoring a TD so that wasn't exactly the same #1 offense that scored 38 points on the Eagles dream team in the SB the year before...
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He wasn't always available but was good enough to help us make a run for the SB and win it.


Of course our last SB win was a strange year in which our defense was lights out and our offense went 15-16 straight drives in the AFC Championship and SB without scoring a TD so that wasn't exactly the same #1 offense that scored 38 points on the Eagles dream team in the SB the year before...
Juju’s knee started giving out and he got massively overpaid to leave for NE where he…had knee issues.

McKinnon was about done and Kelce started really falling off. Kadarius Toney and MVS were terrorists and Skyy Moore just ****ing sucked.

We had a major drop off in talent. Thank God they drafted Rashee Rice. He was a huge reason the offense was “good enough” when it needed to be.
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Juju’s knee started giving out and he got massively overpaid to leave for NE where he…had knee issues.

McKinnon was about done and Kelce started really falling off. Kadarius Toney and MVS were terrorists and Skyy Moore just ****ing sucked.

We had a major drop off in talent. Thank God they drafted Rashee Rice. He was a huge reason the offense was “good enough” when it needed to be.


I was annoyed and complained when we signed MVS to 11 million a year but at least that dude showed up in the big games.
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I'd argue that Donovan Smith DID in fact replace OBJ just fine and it was the 2024 off season that Veach didn't do enough.

OBJ should not even be talked about. Keeping Donovan Smith on for 1 more year should be the conversation.
Same reason Fisher and Schwartz didn't get callbacks. The dick has snapped off the bone. It's over.
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