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Old 01-23-2005, 10:49 PM   #1
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A speaker came to a Confirmation retreat and gave about a 45 minute speech on Catholicism. Some of the martyrs and miracles that have happened and today's society. Mostly a short overview on everything.
So you're Catholic?

This explains everything...
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:51 PM   #2
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So you're Catholic?

This explains everything...
Uh oh.. I smell a catholic vs. mormon internet flame war brewing.
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:53 PM   #3
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Uh oh.. I smell a catholic vs. mormon internet flame war brewing.
I'm not mormon. Or anything at all, for that matter.
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:54 PM   #4
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I'm not mormon. Or anything at all, for that matter.
Ah.. my mistake. I thought I'd seen you post that somewhere.
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:58 PM   #5
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Ah.. my mistake. I thought I'd seen you post that somewhere.
I used to be involved with the Jehovah's Witnesses...
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:59 PM   #6
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Was he good in the sack?
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #7
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Witnesses implies there was more than one.
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Old 01-24-2005, 07:34 AM   #8
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Uh oh.. I smell a catholic vs. mormon internet flame war brewing.
Close Mizz, but ya spelled moron with an extra "M"
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:58 PM   #9
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Show me in the bible where it says the Christians' god wanted there to be a Pope or Bishops....and after you do that, take your findings and place them on Martin Luther's grave.

Even if I were still religious at all, I would have to agree with Martin Luther...there shouldn't be a Pope, bishops, etc. Also, he had a pretty good point when he said that the antichrist is the one who puts himself in an ivory tower surrounded by luxury after Jesus said that the way to get into heaven was to be poor. As I recall, M.L. directly called the pope the antichrist many times because of this conclusion.
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #10
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Show me in the bible where it says the Christians' god wanted there to be a Pope or Bishops....and after you do that, take your findings and place them on Martin Luther's grave.

Even if I were still religious at all, I would have to agree with Martin Luther...there shouldn't be a Pope, bishops, etc. Also, he had a pretty good point when he said that the antichrist is the one who puts himself in an ivory tower surrounded by luxury after Jesus said that the way to get into heaven was to be poor. As I recall, M.L. directly called the pope the antichrist many times because of this conclusion.
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #11
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Show me in the bible where it says the Christians' god wanted there to be a Pope or Bishops....and after you do that, take your findings and place them on Martin Luther's grave.

Even if I were still religious at all, I would have to agree with Martin Luther...there shouldn't be a Pope, bishops, etc. Also, he had a pretty good point when he said that the antichrist is the one who puts himself in an ivory tower surrounded by luxury after Jesus said that the way to get into heaven was to be poor. As I recall, M.L. directly called the pope the antichrist many times because of this conclusion.
I guess my best answer (I'm not really an expert in the subject yet) would be Jesus telling Peter he is the rock which he will build on.

ML was right on some things. He was dead on about indulgences and was really brave for speaking out against them. However, he has a bad side to him as well. A classic, pathetic Jew hater.
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:10 PM   #12
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I guess my best answer (I'm not really an expert in the subject yet) would be Jesus telling Peter he is the rock which he will build on.

ML was right on some things. He was dead on about indulgences and was really brave for speaking out against them. However, he has a bad side to him as well. A classic, pathetic Jew hater.
Hmmm when the Catholics killed 10s of thousands of Jews in Spain I guess that didn't count. The Catholic Churchs hands are filthy in the blood of murder.

Don't even get me started.

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Old 01-23-2005, 11:13 PM   #13
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Hmmm when the Catholics killed 10s of thousands of Jews in Spain I guess that didn't count. The Catholic Churchs hands are filthy in the blood of murder.

Don't even get me started.

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Don't get yourself started. I can't and won't defend those actions, or other actions the church has wrongfully made. Helping Nazi's escape Germany comes to mind...
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:14 AM   #14
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Hmmm when the Catholics killed 10s of thousands of Jews in Spain I guess that didn't count. The Catholic Churchs hands are filthy in the blood of murder.

Don't even get me started.

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The Pope killed thousands of Jews?

Or are you stating since he is Catholic, he is guilty by association?

Either way, you set yourself up to be a liar or guilty of killing thousands of Indians and Blacks in this nation. Or do you only assign responsibility to others?
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The Pope killed thousands of Jews?

Or are you stating since he is Catholic, he is guilty by association?

Either way, you set yourself up to be a liar or guilty of killing thousands of Indians and Blacks in this nation. Or do you only assign responsibility to others?
The Pope could have forbid it. Spain = the most powerful nation on the Earth. Dumb ass king and qeen + inquisition = Spain never again becomes important.
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