If not a 2nd for Surtain, then how about this?

[Frankie]

Most of you are urging CP to give up our 2nd to Miami for Surtain. I and a few others (and evidently Peterson) think Miami is a "motivated seller" and would take a lower price. This thread is not meant to argue whether Surtain is worth a 2nd or not. We've argued that plenty in other threads. This one is for you guys to come up with creative other combinations of picks and players that Miami might take in this trade. And to collect all those ideas in one place. Again, please refrain from arguing the worthiness of the 2nd pick here.

I'll start:

Our 2nd for Surtain + their 4th

[Wile_E_Coyote]

double spacing, is that like standing with your feet out wide

[Nightfyre]

I want to live the crack dream where they draft DJ for us at #2, trade him and Surtain to us for our first, second and whomever we draft for them in the thirdd.

[Brock]

Pretty much explains my position.

Josh (Naples, Fl): Gary, Don't you think that a 4th round pick for P. Surtain is an insult, hes a pro bowl corner? I think a 2nd round & that 4ath round that sound about right - your thoughts?

Gary Horton: (11:38 AM ET ) The problem is when it becomes public knowledge that you are trying to move a player, the value simply goes down. It's obvious Nick Saban is rebuilding this Dolphin defense. Surtain doesn't fit in because of age and salary. Saban is also a guy that really wants to accumulate additional picks in the draft. However, the teams like K.C. trying to get Surtain know the Dolphins want to move him. They can play basically a game of hardball and not overcompensate Miami.

Gary Horton: (11:38 AM ET ) Another good example is Travis Henry at Buffalo. The Bills are playing hardball with teams like Arizona but everyone knows Henry is not going to show up at training camp. Arizona is counting on the fact that eventually Buffalo will take less.