Keitzman is hammering CP on 810

[The Bad Guy]

This is great radio.

He just stated a fact. Carl has drafted 3 pro bowl players on defense since he took over.

Jerome Woods, Derrick Thomas and Dale Carter are the only 3 players he has drafted on defense.

That is unbelievable. Woods got it on a sympathy vote too.

If you have time, tune in. He makes a lot of great points whether you hate him or not.

He just played clips that Carl stated he never received one ounce of negative criticism from fans. He also said that the 72,000 season ticket holders are the "real" fans.

The more I hear CP talk, the more I wish he would just vanish off the face of the earth.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I've got to say that I think Marty had a fair amount of input on those early draft successes. He's gone on to have good drafts with other teams as well. Rufus will disagree, but I think Marty has a pretty decent eye for defensive talent.

I think it's pretty well known that I'm a diehard Marty basher, and even I wouldn't disagree with you regarding Marty's eye for defensive talent.

Marty has other issues that have him on his way to winning more games without an appearence in a League Championship (not to be confused with Conference Championship) than any other coach in NFL history.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I have not read this whole thread, and am not going to. But I think our team mirrors Tampa Bay to a degree. Tampa Bay gave up a boat load of picks to get Gruden, and is now paying the price due to not having top draft picks for a couple of years. But at least they did win the SB for their efforts.

We, on the other hand, gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for DV. And don't get me wrong, I like DV. But I think our overall talent is hurting a bit because of those draft picks.

Well I am sitting here holding the following cards Wilson, Fox, Mitchell, Battle, Sims, Freeman, Easy, Downing and Minnis. Now that I have played my hand do you really feel our talent is hurting because we lost those two draft picks?

I would have a really hard time saying yes to that question.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

I think it's pretty well known that I'm a diehard Marty basher, and even I wouldn't disagree with you regarding Marty's eye for defensive talent.

Marty has other issues that have him on his way to winning more games without an appearence in a League Championship (not to be confused with Conference Championship) than any other coach in NFL history.

Exactly.

[Inspector]

Carl sucks so much that he creates his own drafts....

[Manila-Chief]

Originally Posted by TRR

To clarify again, I believe Peterson has struggled at GM. However, placing 100% of the blame on Peterson isn't fair IMHO. Peterson isn't the only one in the war room on Saturday and Sunday.

Why should he not get the blame. He is responsible for hiring those in the war room, and he is the one who makes the final decision. i.e. the LJ pick and DV was clearly upset over it.