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Old 07-04-2005, 02:25 PM   #1
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I'm perfectly fine with that. The last thing I need in a crisis is some dope head, who lost most of his/her brain cells playing chemistry 101 with his/her body, getting in the way of saving a life.
And if they are going through something personal that may affect their decisions at work? You can't drug test for that. Are they automatically dismissed when they make a mistake?

If you knew them on a more personal level, you would be able to tell something was wrong. Drug related or not.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:27 PM   #2
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And if they are going through something personal that may affect their decisions at work? You can't drug test for that. Are they automatically dismissed when they make a mistake?

If you knew them on a more personal level, you would be able to tell something was wrong. Drug related or not.
I'm not attacking anyone personally. I just think some larger companies need to rethink their management structure. I am for drug testing, because you can't always tell.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:30 PM   #3
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And if they are going through something personal that may affect their decisions at work? You can't drug test for that. Are they automatically dismissed when they make a mistake?

If you knew them on a more personal level, you would be able to tell something was wrong. Drug related or not.
We have free programs available to employees who are going through personal problems. If said employees do not wish to take advantage of those programs and instead make a conscience decision to come to work all hopped up on dope, thus creating a work hazard to the people's lives with which we are entrusted by doing so, they need to suffer the consequences.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:40 PM   #4
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And if they are going through something personal that may affect their decisions at work? You can't drug test for that. Are they automatically dismissed when they make a mistake?

If you knew them on a more personal level, you would be able to tell something was wrong. Drug related or not.
People will make mistakes. Doctors, Policemen, Presidents, Everyone. How an employer deals with an empolyee making mistakes has to do with the severity or consequences of the mistake.

However, I think anyone would agree that taking drugs (illegal and legal, alike) can affect the decision making process. If an employer knows you are deliberatly impairing his investment, he has a right to take action.


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Old 07-04-2005, 02:45 PM   #5
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People will make mistakes. Doctors, Policemen, Presidents, Everyone. How an employer deals with an empolyee making mistakes has to do with the severity or consequences of the mistake.

However, I don't think anyone would agree that taking drugs (illegal and legal, alike) can affect the decision making process. If an employer knows you are deliberatly impairing his investment, he has a right to take action.
I completely agree.
Did you guys miss the post where I said I agreed with drug testing?
My point (besides just venting) was that it seems like larger companies do not know their employees. Which is understandable considering all the people you would have to get out and talk to. We've recently made a few changes in the management structure on my shift where I work. I think they have been very beneficial to the company. I guess I veered off the whole drug testing side of things for a bit. I am back on track now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:48 PM   #6
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I completely agree.
Did you guys miss the post where I said I agreed with drug testing?
My point (besides just venting) was that it seems like larger companies do not know their employees. Which is understandable considering all the people you would have to get out and talk to. We've recently made a few changes in the management structure on my shift where I work. I think they have been very beneficial to the company. I guess I veered off the whole drug testing side of things for a bit. I am back on track now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
No problemo. I agree that business gets pretty impersonal. The bigger the company, the more impersonal it gets.
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