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Old 09-08-2005, 11:24 AM   #1
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I know that part of being a pastor is telling people things that they may not want to hear. But that is to his people who choose to go to that church. I would think they would want a sign that attracks people to the church. Well, this one did, I guess. People calling, news crews, etc. He's probably loving it. While what he said may be true. There is sin in EVERY city in the US. Why point out this city at a time when the wounds are still fresh? I think it was tactless. He could share the same message later, when things have calmed down. People are way too emotional at this point. Good message, bad timing. IMO.
Its a crap message at ANY time! This is what drives me nuts with these religious wackos. Nothing is right in the world unless everyone else is doing exactly what they are doing. Absolute crap!

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Old 09-08-2005, 11:40 AM   #2
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Its a crap message at ANY time! This is what drives me nuts with these religious wackos. Nothing is right in the world unless everyone else is doing exactly what they are doing. Absolute crap!

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There is a difference between trying to follow God's word and sinning, and specifically seeking out things that are religiously and morally wrong. Putting that message on a sign for the general public will do more harm than good, but even if God didn't send Katrina to clean out NO, (which I don't think he did), using an event that you have no control over to make yourself a better person is the best thing that could come out of the situation.

I don't think there are many people in America that haven't changed their values or the way they live (religiously or morally) after watching 9/11, the tsunami, or Katrina. But I guess it is ok to let a bad situation change you for the better if you aren't religious, but if you do the same thing using the bible as guidleline you are a whacko.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:57 PM   #3
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:55 AM   #4
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Its a crap message at ANY time! This is what drives me nuts with these religious wackos. Nothing is right in the world unless everyone else is doing exactly what they are doing. Absolute crap!

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Oooookay. Not what I meant to say at all. A church is going to teach what it teaches. If the people want to learn what that church is teaching, they will go there. If that is the type of thing this pastor is teaching, it's his church. I just think it was tactless to put something like that on a sign outside at a time like this.

And I'm sure the pastor is loving the publicity. I myself, would not consider that a good thing.

I am not a religious whacko, tyvm.
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:58 AM   #5
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Its a crap message at ANY time! This is what drives me nuts with these religious wackos. Nothing is right in the world unless everyone else is doing exactly what they are doing. Absolute crap!

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This is what I hate about BOTH sides of this coin. He posted it and you act like it's something.

The guy and his church believe a fairly strict set of rules. NO is a city that prides itself on breaking those rules. I didn't hear you guys crying about the fact that these church members were being offended every day that NO did it's thing.

Now the roles are reversed and the church is doing their thing and you guys are all bent out of shape. Hypocrites.

Like a wise comedian once said: "Don't kick a man while he's down? What better time is there to kick a man?"
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:02 PM   #6
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It doesn't surprise me at all. The religious whackos are on campus quite often calling people names ("homos") and talking about how disasters and attacks are retribution by God.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:03 PM   #7
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I didn't hear you guys crying about the fact that these church members were being offended every day that NO did it's thing.
I don't care if I "offend" someone. It's my right to live the way that I choose, and it's my lot in life to deal with the consequences, should there be any. Those church members have the exact same right, and so long as they live their lives the way that they see as "right", nothing that I or anybody else does can touch who they are or what they believe.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:03 PM   #8
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And we seem to be overlooking the fact that, no matter why they believe this happened, they are still donating money and items to the relief. That doesn't mean he shouldn't take the sign down, I think he should. But it is the church's property, so they can put it up if they wish.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:07 PM   #9
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And we seem to be overlooking the fact that, no matter why they believe this happened, they are still donating money and items to the relief. That doesn't mean he shouldn't take the sign down, I think he should. But it is the church's property, so they can put it up if they wish.
That is interesting. What else could one put on a sign? Nudity? Swearing? Sex-acts?
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Are we going to turn into salt for watching it on TV?!?
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:09 PM   #11
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Are we going to turn into salt for watching it on TV?!?
I'd lick myself. Although I guess my tongue would be salt, too. Mmm, salt.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:08 PM   #12
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That is interesting. What else could one put on a sign? Nudity? Swearing? Sex-acts?
Only fake nudity.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:11 PM   #13
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That is interesting. What else could one put on a sign? Nudity? Swearing? Sex-acts?
I've seen several trucks that have the outlines of naked women on them, people pissing, and you've never seen a bumper sticker that had a cuss word on it?
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:04 PM   #14
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This is what I hate about BOTH sides of this coin. He posted it and you act like it's something.

The guy and his church believe a fairly strict set of rules. NO is a city that prides itself on breaking those rules. I didn't hear you guys crying about the fact that these church members were being offended every day that NO did it's thing.

Now the roles are reversed and the church is doing their thing and you guys are all bent out of shape. Hypocrites.

Like a wise comedian once said: "Don't kick a man while he's down? What better time is there to kick a man?"
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I don't think saying this sign is bullshit makes us hypocrites, unless we're going to his church and telling this nut and his followers that they should go to New Orleans so they can marry voodoo women and live in sin.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:08 PM   #15
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I don't think saying this sign is bullshit makes us hypocrites, unless we're going to his church and telling this nut and his followers that they should go to New Orleans so they can marry voodoo women and live in sin.
Anyone who "feels" for these "poor people who had to read this sign" but don't feel for the church members who have to view scenes and hear stories from NO, which is equally offensive to them, is a hypocrite. Those people have made a decision about who they care about being offended and who they don't based on who-knows-what criteria.
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