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Old 11-20-2005, 03:48 PM  
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What's a good pain killer for back pain?
So this morning I pulled a muscle REALLY bad in my back... my wife did a little massage therapy on my back (that's what she's studying to become) and it feels a little better, but still pretty painful.

I know since it's a muscle I pulled I need an anti-inflammatory, but besides ibuprofin, is there anything better I can get without a prescription? I know there are some guys around here that have a lot of experience with back pain... this shit I felt this morning rates about a 9.5 on my pain threshold, which is fairly high for this type of thing. I literally felt like my back had broken... for about 30 seconds everything on my body hurt, except for my legs, which were numb. I'm a LOT better than I was six hours ago, and I can move and sit up (slowly), but the shooting pains and the dull pains are pretty bad (I'd say about a 6.5 on my pain threshold.

Thanks for ANY advice.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:12 AM   #46
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Why not put heat on? I get back muscle pulls every so often and I like to lay down with a heat pad on it.

Works best if you put heat on the Fentanyl patch.







JUST KIDDING, DO NOT HEAT A FENTANYL PATCH.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:58 AM   #47
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Works best if you put heat on the Fentanyl patch.







JUST KIDDING, DO NOT HEAT A FENTANYL PATCH.
Ok, I won't.


BTW, what is a fentanyl patch?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:00 AM   #48
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Oh, that reminds of something that I thought was really funny. My nephew put some icy hot on his groin area the other night. It got on his nuts and he was limping around like an old man. It was hilarious. I'm sure it says somewhere on the label not to put it on your jewels.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:02 AM   #49
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Vicodin is for people who stubbed their toe.

Of course, I've been taking about 6-8 Percocets a day (10/325) for two freaking years, so maybe I just built up a tolerance.

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10 X stronger than morphine??? That is some bullshit. That would kill you. .
Dr. Savage I presume? You should do your research before you post smack you obviously know nothing about it hot shot. The doctor told us it was 10x stronger but I am sure he doesn't know shit compared to you. Since you posted this smack I thought I would look it up and this is what I came up with.

Types of Opioids:
1. Naturally Occuring (sap from opium poppy)
Morphine (10% opium by weight)
- High gastrointestinal side effects (constipation)
Codeine (methylmorphine, ~0.5% opium)
2. Semi- Synthetics
Heroin (diacetylmorphine): Sched 1
- 10x more potent than morphine
- Converted to form of morphine (6-acetyl morphine) in brain
Semi-Synthetic Analgesics:
Hydormorphone (Dilaudid): Sched 2
- Stronger than Heroin, surgical pain treatment
Hydrocodone (Hycodan)
Oxycodone (Percodan or Percoset)
- 2x more potent than morphine as pill, ˝ potent as IV
- Long lasting, low gastrointestinal side effects
3. Synthetics
Phenylpiperidines
Fentanyl ~5000x more potent than heroin
Meperidine (Demerol, MPPP): surgery
Methadone and Congeners
Methadone (Dolophine)
- Strong narcotic ~3x strong as morphine, but weaker than heroin
- Initially used as pain killer, than as heroin addict treatment
- Less gastrointestinal side effects
Propoxyphene (Darvon) Weak ~ aspirin
Benzomorphans “non- addictive opiates” but hallucinations at high doses, aversive
Pentazocine (Talwin)
4. Opioid Antagonists: Used for overdose
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hydromorphone = dilaudid

Just another opiate. It's all relative to mgs. vs mgs.
Good post stumppy.
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:31 AM   #52
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Vicodin is for people who stubbed their toe.

Of course, I've been taking about 6-8 Percocets a day (10/325) for two freaking years, so maybe I just built up a tolerance.

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