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View Poll Results: What should we do? (Check ALL that apply)
Grant "amnesty" to illegals who've been here at least 2 full years. (time to be negotiated) 8 6.67%
Streamline the naturalization process for current illegals, expediting their road toward citizenship. 13 10.83%
Allow illegals now here to be naturalized, eventually; but crack down on "new" illegals 15 12.50%
Grant eventual citizenship to illegals, but after a waiting period, a symbolic fine, and strict naturalization requirements. 16 13.33%
Crackdown harshly on businesses that are lazy, or who knowingly hire illegals. 57 47.50%
Build a 700 mile fence/wall to be heavily fortified and guarded to stop future illegals. 38 31.67%
Illegals should face a significant fine, and repayment of any back taxes....before being considered for citizenship. 28 23.33%
Illegals here for less than two years should be deported. 23 19.17%
Illegals here from 2-7 years, would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis; good "citizens" could be naturalized, but some would be deported. 24 20.00%
Illegals here for at least 8 years, could apply for expedited citizenship if they've been law-adiding (generally) and held jobs consistently. 24 20.00%
Deport only those illegals who've become problems and have not consistently maintained employment. 20 16.67%
Deport ALL, or nearly all, who entered the country illegally. 55 45.83%
Increase border patrol SUBSTANTIALLY, possibly including use of the armed forces as necessary. 58 48.33%
Utilize armed forces as a routine part of daily border patrol. 38 31.67%
Do whatever GAZ says.... 12 10.00%
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:33 PM   #1
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Prices would go up; I don't doubt that. But no where close to being double.



Of course; they're criminals. I don't like paying taxes either, but I'd rather not break the law.
1. Double is probably hyperbole.

2. That's why I say you have to seal the border before you do anything.
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:35 PM   #2
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At least complement them on their signs.
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:35 PM   #3
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1. Double is probably hyperbole.

2. That's why I say you have to seal the border before you do anything.
Okay.

I realize that, and I proposed a solution earlier. Probably too icky for most, however.
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Old 04-11-2006, 03:45 PM   #4
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I am not buyin' into the idea that Americans won't do these jobs.

If the free-market, and I mean we need a free-market inside America first, can't get people to fill these jobs then the scarce labor pool demands higher pay, better benefits and improved working conditions for these jobs which should go to our poorest Americans first.

So the costs go up! BFD! Soooo...the illegals are getting free taxpayer services too. Don't tell me they don't. I know someone who rents to one who had a baby and Medicaid paid for it. So we pay for it somewhere. Our poor American citizens can come off welfare instead so it balances out.

Further,if costs get too high people just won't buy as it's too much to bear and then the costs come back down or that industry has to become more efficient and productive.This is how the market works...it regulates itself.

Many of these are jobs for teenagers too.

Do not reward the behavior you don't want. Just increase how many can come in legally.

Anyhow, many of these illegals do not want to be citizens, show no loyalty to America and want to reclaim former Mexican land. That's dangerous imo.

In fact amnesty was granted to the hordes that invaded Rome and it contributed to it's fall due to the corruption of these hordes and in the Senate. So our Nero-like-Senate repeats the same mistake.

What's Vincente Fox's next move? Probably to sack Phoenix and then LA.
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