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Grant "amnesty" to illegals who've been here at least 2 full years. (time to be negotiated) 8 6.67%
Streamline the naturalization process for current illegals, expediting their road toward citizenship. 13 10.83%
Allow illegals now here to be naturalized, eventually; but crack down on "new" illegals 15 12.50%
Grant eventual citizenship to illegals, but after a waiting period, a symbolic fine, and strict naturalization requirements. 16 13.33%
Crackdown harshly on businesses that are lazy, or who knowingly hire illegals. 57 47.50%
Build a 700 mile fence/wall to be heavily fortified and guarded to stop future illegals. 38 31.67%
Illegals should face a significant fine, and repayment of any back taxes....before being considered for citizenship. 28 23.33%
Illegals here for less than two years should be deported. 23 19.17%
Illegals here from 2-7 years, would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis; good "citizens" could be naturalized, but some would be deported. 24 20.00%
Illegals here for at least 8 years, could apply for expedited citizenship if they've been law-adiding (generally) and held jobs consistently. 24 20.00%
Deport only those illegals who've become problems and have not consistently maintained employment. 20 16.67%
Deport ALL, or nearly all, who entered the country illegally. 55 45.83%
Increase border patrol SUBSTANTIALLY, possibly including use of the armed forces as necessary. 58 48.33%
Utilize armed forces as a routine part of daily border patrol. 38 31.67%
Do whatever GAZ says.... 12 10.00%
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:49 PM   #11
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This is what I've been trying to tell people, and they simply refuse to believe it. Anyone that's had to deal with hiring at low wage levels understands. People look at unemployment rates and think there are lines of unemployed Americans that simply can't get jobs, when the reality is 75% of those people are unemployable or simply don't want a job, and the other 25% are selective about which job they'll work. And it's reached a point where it's no longer about cheap labor in most states. Employers are paying good wages to anyone.
That problem is also regional. In faster growing states (Arizona, Nevada) the lack of workers is obvious. In central Mo. it's not as much of a problem. Even here though it's hard to find someone reliable for a part time position (20 hrs and under a week) that starts at $7.50 an hour.

The problem is raising children in a welfare state that shows them they don't HAVE to work. The entire working class culture has changed and that's the problem...
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