McPhee Of Idol Show Has Bulimia...

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There was an argument raging about whether she was fat or thin, and there were a few different pics posted of her that seemed to support both sides. This might help explain:

McPhee one of millions with bulimia
Disease 'goes through society'

Thursday, June 22, 2006; Posted: 7:15 p.m. EDT (23:15 GMT)

(CNN) -- Katharine McPhee's revelation that she has battled bulimia puts the American Idol runner-up in the company of millions of Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/condi...cnn_topstories

[Clint in Wichita]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Mental illness isn't pathetic. I have a good friend who was very much close to death as a result of her anorexia. It wasn't something she could control, either. The good news is that one can recover from both the physical side of having your body digest it's own organs because its so starved, and recover from the mental side that cause it in the first place. She's overweight now, but she's happy and alive.

Sometimes mental illness is pathetic. See pedophiles and, conservatives would say, homosexuals.

I would like to see an experiment:

Send a bulimic/anorexic to an island where there is plenty of fresh water, but absolutely no food...not even insects. Nothing to eat at all. Turn a TV camera on them and see what happens. Are they overjoyed at the fact that there is no food, even though it means they are doomed? As they starve to death, do they become more and more ecstatic? Are they at their happiest seconds before they die? Or do they forget about their precious "figure" when they realize that eating is no longer an option, and that they are, without a doubt, going to die?





My second experiment involves what a person with Terrett's Syndrome says if he/she grows up without ever hearing profanity of any kind, but that's for another thread.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

My second experiment involves what a person with Terrett's Syndrome says if he/she grows up without ever hearing profanity of any kind, but that's for another thread.

Seeing as many of the manifestations of Tourettes are chirps, squeaks, yelps, as well as jerky hand, leg, and head movements, I'd guess your experiment would yield little new info.
Sufferers describe the affliction as an itch on the brain that can only be scratched by acting out.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Cochise

You know, a lot of girls who have bulimia work out incessantly.

not the ones I knew

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Sufferers describe the affliction as an itch on the brain that can only be scratched by acting out.

I've always wondered about that disorder. How often do you think you've just flat out blown a fuse and it felt great? It's happened to me on several occasions and I wonder if that's how people with Tourette's feel when they have an episode. That they are just letting it out and it feels good to do it. I wonder how fine a line there is between having a disorder and having an anger "problem".

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

Sometimes mental illness is pathetic. See pedophiles and, conservatives would say, homosexuals.

I would like to see an experiment:

Send a bulimic/anorexic to an island where there is plenty of fresh water, but absolutely no food...not even insects. Nothing to eat at all. Turn a TV camera on them and see what happens. Are they overjoyed at the fact that there is no food, even though it means they are doomed? As they starve to death, do they become more and more ecstatic? Are they at their happiest seconds before they die? Or do they forget about their precious "figure" when they realize that eating is no longer an option, and that they are, without a doubt, going to die?





My second experiment involves what a person with Terrett's Syndrome says if he/she grows up without ever hearing profanity of any kind, but that's for another thread.

It wouldn't matter if there was ample water and/or no food.

It would only matter if there's other people.

No other people = no social anxiety = no bulemia

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It wouldn't matter if there was ample water and/or no food.

It would only matter if there's other people.

No other people = no social anxiety = no bulemia

I don't know. I don't buy that. I can't really get into the head of a bulimic but from what I understand it is more about self image and less about what others might think. Otherwise it could be easily cured with positive verbal feedback.

[SLAG]

I heard what really happend was she was throwing up drunk and on a whole bunch of shrooms a friend saw her and she played it off as if she had "The Buliemia" to be cool and hip......

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I don't know. I don't buy that. I can't really get into the head of a bulimic but from what I understand it is more about self image and less about what others might think. Otherwise it could be easily cured with positive verbal feedback.

Why does one develop a self image? Without social pressure, there's nothing to compare one's self to...

[sedated]

eating disorders are about control.

the people feel that they cannot control anything in their lives, but they can control what they eat.

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by sedated

eating disorders are about control.

the people feel that they cannot control anything in their lives, but they can control what they eat.

Great point. Its common in situations of abuse, or neglect or other sorts.

It runs on the same principle of an abusive husband getting yelled at at work, and coming home to take it out on his wife. Same principle, different style.

Moooo

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by sedated

eating disorders are about control.

the people feel that they cannot control anything in their lives, but they can control what they eat.

Very true. Particularly with anorexia.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why does one develop a self image? Without social pressure, there's nothing to compare one's self to...

From what I understand it's all about what they see in the mirror. It has more to do with what they perceive as their own body image, even though this view is influenced by what they see in various media. It comes down to a person standing naked in the bathroom and feeling disgusted by what they see of themselves. That happens even with no one else around.

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by listopencil

From what I understand it's all about what they see in the mirror. It has more to do with what they perceive as their own body image, even though this view is influenced by what they see in various media. It comes down to a person standing naked in the bathroom and feeling disgusted by what they see of themselves. That happens even with no one else around.

I think what he's saying is without magazines and stuff to compare yourself too, you wouldn't have any reason to think anything you look like is ugly...

I argue that many times such issues are caused by a chemical imbalance which manifest theirselves in other ways. For example, if it wasn't one part of her body image it would be another... If the chemicals are out of whack, a lot of times the thoughts are just justification...

Moooo

[htismaqe]

Anorexia and bulemia are strongly related to other obsessive disorders like OCD. So in some way you're correct, it it doesn't manifest itself in this way it will likely manifest itself in another.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Anorexia and bulemia are strongly related to other obsessive disorders like OCD. So in some way you're correct, it it doesn't manifest itself in this way it will likely manifest itself in another.

I understand you're point about other people's standards contributing to the eating disorders. I think they do. But as you point out here, it's a mental disorder. It would continue even without outside stimulus.