Now with Surtain/Law as our CBs, here is the latest reason why we will suck...

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

yup...we have some potential at DE, but our DTs a basically a laughing stock...

We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by jspchief

We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.

Agreed...

The new faces at DT, Hali at DE
Solid CBs starting and backup Surtain,Law, Walls...Battle
SS Knight/Pollard
FS either Pollard/Wesley/Battle

Better LB Play from Bell, DJ, Mitchell

NEW Coaches...

Just the infusion of new players. give me very optomistic hope.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by nm_dbf

Agreed...

The new faces at DT, Hali at DE
Solid CBs starting and backup Surtain,Law, Walls...Battle
SS Knight/Pollard
FS either Pollard/Wesley/Battle

Better LB Play from Bell, DJ, Mitchell

NEW Coaches...

Just the infusion of new players. give me very optomistic hope.

I think getting better play from Bell, at this point, is a pipe dream. If we really want to get better, Fox needs to win that position.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by jspchief

We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.

I agree with the gist of your post...I'm hopeful for the D, namely because I think we have enough talent now that not even Gunther can screw it up.

I don't agree with the 10 plays away comment. We own those plays. And collapases like Philly/Giants were about more than single plays. They were about scheme and talent. Coaching is still a ?? to me.

If our new DTs play at even a good-to-average level that will give us depth we didn't have. I'll take it as a sign that we're better at the position when Siavii gets cut.