I've never seen a defensive coordinator given so much as Carl has given Gunther...

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

That's what was said LAST year.

Look, those of you giving Gun a free-ride his first year are neglection one important point: Gun was brought here not to work miracles...(bring us from last to a top 10 or something like that), but simply make the D respectable. We set multiple ALL-TIME NFL records on offense in 2004. All for not....because Gun's D was so damn putrid.

From day one, Gun knew his job...and instead of a slight improvement from 2003, we went down the toilet even further...

That is complete FAILURE.

And then we went out and spend money, and had some good contribution from draft picks..and it was still awful last year.... So many games where the D didn't get torched have asterisks... SD (field unplayable), NE (decimated with injuries), Cinci (nothing to play for)[and all those in my opinion are BIG asterisks]

Other teams we stopped last year were the awful, unprepared NY Jets to open the season, Miami (not a very good offense at the time, but I will give the D a little credit. They were in impressive.), Houston (joke of an offense)

When we played a good offensive team last year, with no asterisks, they torched us.

Now replacing Warfield with Law should be a big improvement. Throwing at Warfield was an automatic first down.

that's how I feel about Gun...especially your first point