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Old 03-28-2007, 09:55 AM   #1
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They could get probably get a 2nd and 3rd. Is it worth it for the best defensive player? You've got to use at least one of those picks to try to replace him, plus your thin at the position to start with.

Pay the man. Give him bonuses tied into games played and/or have clauses about not getting paid if suspended, etc.
I think we have other players we can build around, players with more natural talent, better upside, and without the off-the-field and behavioral issues.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:13 PM   #2
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I think we have other players we can build around, players with more natural talent, better upside, and without the off-the-field and behavioral issues.
Who?
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:55 AM   #3
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I think either way you win. If he plays great, if you trade him he should have some real value.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:26 AM   #4
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Is it worth it for the best defensive player?
I think one could argue that Allen isn't even our best DE. IMO Hali is a better all-around DE.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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I think one could argue that Allen isn't even our best DE. IMO Hali is a better all-around DE.
I agree. Hali is better IMO as well.

If the deal is right, trade Allen.
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:21 PM   #6
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I think one could argue that Allen isn't even our best DE. IMO Hali is a better all-around DE.
Hali had a better rookie season then JA, but JA didn't have a good DE to help him out his rookie season. The only advantage Hali had over JA last season was half a sack and more forced fumbles. JA had more tackles, more tackles for loss, more passes defensed, and way more QB pressures.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:54 AM   #7
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It does happen.

But very rarely can you actually GET the compensation that's due for a tendered player.

In this case, we have a very REAL possibility of getting two reasonably high picks for Allen.
Do you really trust Carl Peterson to use those picks effectively given his history?

I don't like the possibility of the 4 game suspension anymore than any other person, but it is very hard to find players who play with the ability and passion that Allen does.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:56 AM   #8
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Do you really trust Carl Peterson to use those picks effectively given his history?

I don't like the possibility of the 4 game suspension anymore than any other person, but it is very hard to find players who play with the ability and passion that Allen does.
Herm Edwards gets to use those picks, and based on last season, I absolutely DO trust him to use them correctly.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:20 AM   #9
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Do you really trust Carl Peterson to use those picks effectively given his history?
Yeah, it's not like he would ever draft anybody like say a Jared Allen.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:58 AM   #10
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:58 AM   #11
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so what's Jared Allen worth, Parker?



a 6th?
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:02 AM   #12
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I don't care if he misses 4 games - just the same as if he gets dinged in the middle of the season.. You don't trade a proven young guy who fills a big need on your crappy D - unless you absolutely have to.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:24 AM   #13
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You don't trade a proven young guy who fills a big need on your crappy D - unless you absolutely have to.
If you have a crappy D and tons of holes, then you trade guys in these kinds of contract situations for picks to fill holes. That would be the forward thinking thing to do anyways.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:02 AM   #14
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so what's Jared Allen worth, Parker?

a 6th?
AT LEAST a 2nd and 3rd.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:04 AM   #15
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AT LEAST a 2nd and 3rd.
Most definitely a 2nd - that's hardly debatable.
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