For those that want to draft a WR in the first round....

[chop]

Doesn't look like it will happen.

http://www.kansascity.com/160/story/69032.html

Chiefs won’t get grabby

Team doesn’t place a high priority on wide receivers in the upcoming NFL draft.

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


Herm Edwards was talking recently about the players who will catch passes for the Chiefs next season. He took care to mention two young wide receivers, Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon, even though they had three receptions between them as rookies last season.
“We’ve got two young guys, and I want to see whether they can play or not,” Edwards said. “I know one thing: We don’t cover them in practice very well.”
Is it just draft talk, designed to convince the NFL’s 31 other teams the Chiefs have no intention of selecting a receiver in the upcoming player lottery?
Perhaps. But know two things. First, Edwards isn’t big, even in the days leading to the draft, on talking up prospects he doesn’t have expectations for.
The other is that the Chiefs don’t view improving the position as a top priority, certainly not as much as their fans do. They made no move in free-agency to sign a wide receiver.
The only top wide receiver known to be visiting with the Chiefs next week, when they intend to bring up to 30 draft prospects to Arrowhead Stadium, is Robert Meachem of Tennessee.
Among the top receivers not scheduled to visit are Sidney Rice of South Carolina, Steve Smith of USC, Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis of LSU, Paul Williams of Fresno State and Yamon Figurs of Kansas State.
While this is insignificant taken alone, it is another indication the Chiefs believe they have bigger positional priorities in the draft, such as cornerback and defensive tackle.
The Chiefs could use another wide receiver and will probably select at least one. They may be content to wait until later in the draft to do it.
“When you draft a receiver in the first round, a lot of times it’s buyer beware,” Edwards said. “For some reason, it takes them a while. Most rookie receivers don’t come in and light it up their first year. They struggle. The dynamics have changed for those guys from college to the NFL. You have to understand that when you draft a receiver in the first round. A lot of them don’t play their first year and even when they play, they don’t live up to expectations.
“You can find guys to help you at wide receiver later in the draft, definitely.”
Unless a draft pick pushes his way into the playing rotation, starters Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker along with Webb and Hannon will be the top wide receivers next season.
The Chiefs are trying to trade Dante Hall, who hasn’t given them what they hoped as either a slot receiver or kick returner in recent seasons. He may be released if he isn’t traded.
The Chiefs are counting on dramatic improvement from Webb, a sixth-round pick last year, and Hannon, who wasn’t drafted. Webb is bigger and more physical, and Hannon is faster but must get stronger.
“They’ve got some talent,” Edwards said. “They have enough that they’ve earned the opportunity to try to play. That’s what we’ve emphasized. We’re trying to create competition.
“It’s just a matter of getting to the details of what we’re trying to do. Now they know what we want from them. They’re not just trying to figure out what to do. ”
To Webb and Hannon, it’s a gift that the Chiefs haven’t added a wide receiver, at least so far.
“That’s the coach’s decision,” Webb said. “I don’t know what they’re thinking. All I can do is work on Jeff Webb and try to be a good player.
“Hannon and I are doing our jobs right now. We’re working extra hours when it comes time to lift weights and (spending) extra hours out on the practice field with Brodie (Croyle).”
Kennison has been a regular at the offseason workouts since they began almost two weeks ago. He recently turned 34, an advanced age for a wide receiver.
But Kennison keeps himself in good physical condition. His streak of two straight 1,000-yard seasons was ended last year, but that had more to do with problems elsewhere in the Chiefs’ passing game than with any drop-off in Kennison’s play.
“I’m not going to let anybody else determine when I retire from this game,” he said. “I want to retire when I’m ready. And I’m not ready.
“I’m better at taking care of myself: diet, exercise, doing the things that are right all the time. I’m not a guy that hangs out in the nightspots. I’m not a drinker. I keep finding ways to do things better. The workouts continue to get better for me. It makes things easier. That’s my whole deal.”

[milkman]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

I agree.
There should be a balance.

However, if there's a guy at a position of strength sitting there that's clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the available players, then you simply can't pass that pick up in favor of another position.

[Mecca]

You basically want a 1 player draft.........

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't worry I'm great on draft day if I don't like the pick I'll swear constantly and throw things at the TV.

I think a WR would start for us from day 1 and be atleast as productive as what we had there last year and that being in his developmental 1st year.

I like the idea of a WR.....







just not Ginn.....

[Mecca]

It's what you like, Ginn has the ability to seperate and make big plays and help you on special teams......Jarrett is likely not going to be able to stretch the field and doesn't play special teams.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

I would do it in a heartbeat. Get a Levi Brown. Get a good prospect at CB in the third. And maybe get some good speical team players in the late rounds.

I'm glad you aren't the GM.

We have far too many holes to fill to be concerning ourselves with targeting one player, or one position, to simply throw away draft picks to get that player or fill that position..

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm glad you aren't the GM.

We have far too many holes to fill to be concerning ourselves with targeting one player, or one position, to simply throw away draft picks to get that player or fill that position..

He's overvalueing the idea of 1 player in football, this isn't the NBA here.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's what you like, Ginn has the ability to seperate and make big plays and help you on special teams......Jarrett is likely not going to be able to stretch the field and doesn't play special teams.

we could pro/con each other to death. Ginn is speedy but has trouble with press coverage and not a good blocker. He does have some special team prospect I just think we have this WR already, Webb. He did good returning last year, he's fast and can do everything you want Ginn for.

I like Bowe over Jarrett, point blank. but both of them are bigger possession recievers that can run block, these we need, the only one we have like this is Gardner, mmmmm. Kennison is a great blocker and still pretty fast. Having Bowe on the other side instead of Parker, sounds good. throw in Web as a Dante's replacement = even better.

[Mecca]

I'm sorry Jeff Webb as a returner will put us in the bottom 3rd of the league in return yards......for anything you can say about Ginn he is an electrifying special teams player.

I think people need to realize Jeff Webb dropped in the draft because he may have run a 4.4 but no one believed he played at 4.4. He's a backup WR that plays special teams, not as the returner mind you. This idea that he's gonna be this productive WR and special teams returner you'd think he was a 1st or 2nd round pick.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

we could pro/con each other to death. Ginn is speedy but has trouble with press coverage and not a good blocker. He does have some special team prospect I just think we have this WR already, Webb. He did good returning last year, he's fast and can do everything you want Ginn for.

I like Bowe over Jarrett, point blank. but both of them are bigger possession recievers that can run block, these we need, the only one we have like this is Gardner, mmmmm. Kennison is a great blocker and still pretty fast. Having Bowe on the other side instead of Parker, sounds good. throw in Web as a Dante's replacement = even better.

I don't like Ginn because he dropped a number of easily catchable passes in the games I watched.

But I sure as hell am not ready to rely on a project like Webb.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by bdeg

We will probably have 5 starters next year from that draft. That's awesome.

We hear that every year.


Just you wait, Wilkerson would have been a 1st round pick if he stayed in school one more year - he'll be great with a little playing time under his belt. Thorpe has great speed, you can't teach that, just wait until he gets the system under his belt for one year.

Was 2005 a great draft year? You got two full time starters that first year - DJ and Colquitt and a special teams player in Grigsby.

When you are doing your own mock draft for KC this year do you say to yourself, "Boy, I hope the guys from rounds 2-7 put in 3 starts between them and get some special teams play. That would be a great draft!"

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't like Ginn because he dropped a number of easily catchable passes in the games I watched.

But I sure as hell am not ready to rely on a project like Webb.

didn't he do pretty well last year, standing in for Hall, the very first time he returned one pretty far..... fifty yards.

I guess I didn't know he was a bust too, damn. Well go for Ginn than Carl/mecca.....

[Mecca]

I just want to know why people really think we can count on guys like Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon.......counting on them for anything is playing with fire....

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I just want to know why people really think we can count on guys like Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon.......counting on them for anything is playing with fire....

Yes sir, Carl/mecca. Sorry didnt' mean to put my opinion on the board, I should have known that your opinion, since it was posted first, didn't need any other information and should just be accepted as truth. Sorry dude.

[crazycoffey]

I never said we can count on Webb, I said we already have a Ginn on our roster with mr. Webb. That is all, thanks for playing.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

I never said we can count on Webb, I said we already have a Ginn on our roster with mr. Webb. That is all, thanks for playing.

You really think Jeff Webb is half the return man Ginn is.......how many times you watch Ohio State play?