Clayton on Trent. espn radio. 9:50pm.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Um...the words came out of TRENT GREEN'S OWN MOUTH.

If by "words" you mean your allegation that he threw younger team members under the bus I have yet to see where that is anything more than your interpretation of what was said.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying I haven't seen anything that couldn't be interpreted different ways.

[Katie]

I didn't hear the interview...what'd he say?

[booger]

Originally Posted by Katie

I didn't hear the interview...what'd he say?

He called all the cheerleaders nappy headed ho's and said 90 % of the fans were dumb assed rednecks who drive camaro's, listen to Skynryd, and buy their clothes at Wal'Mart.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by booger

He called all the cheerleaders nappy headed ho's and said 90 % of the fans were dumb assed rednecks who drive camaro's, listen to Skynryd, and buy their clothes at Wal'Mart.

He also said that LJ was a punk ass wanksta.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Damn it's nasty how some of you have turned on Green. The guy was told he is being replaced and wants to play somewhere else. Why would a QB who is used to a scoring offense want to play for ultra conservative Herm Edwards and an offense that is doomed to take a big step backward this year?

I have NO problem with Green wanting to play somewhere else.

I have NO problem with Green not wanting to play for Herm.

I have NO problem with Green not wanting to be part of a conservative offense that won't showcase him near as much.

I have NO problem with Green making "tough" comments in an effort to spur a trade.

I actually had ZERO problem with Trent Green up to the point where he said "the reason the Chiefs are going young is because the young players are naive".

[NewChief]

1) I think the whole "naieve" comment is mountains out of molehills. Perhaps he mispoke. Perhaps he used the wrong word. As I sort of pointed out earlier, it's not like he said these guys suck and can't play. It's not like he said they're a bunch of assholes. He said, basically, that they have a different perspective because they're younger. As one gets older in the league, perspective changes.

2) I don't think that Trent sees himself as a "team leader" any longer, if the team you're referring to is the Chiefs.

[HemiEd]

"they don't know any better" is a putdown of the players, no matter how you slice it. It is also very undermining to the team chemistry, players and coaches.
I have a very hard time putting any kind of positive spin on what he said.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by NewChief

He said, basically, that they have a different perspective because they're younger.

No, he said they don't know any better.

Originally Posted by NewChiefs

I don't think that Trent sees himself as a "team leader" any longer, if the team you're referring to is the Chiefs.

So it's OK for Trent to change the way he views himself, but it's not OK for the fans to view him differently?

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, he said they don't know any better.

That can be read as, "I don't blame them, I was the same way back then." To me, he's saying that Carl's a prick, and eventually they'll all find that out. Don't believe the BS that you're fed. He did, and it backfired on him.

So it's OK for Trent to change the way he views himself, but it's not OK for the fans to view him differently?

I have zero problem with people saying, "I no longer feel that Trent's the leader of the Chiefs." What I have a problem with is people acting like he's lacking leadership quality or that he was never a leader of the team. People act like, since he said this, they've been wrong all along and Trent's really a horrible person and a cancer to the Chiefs. I can't tell you how many times on these threads I've read, "I used to like Trent Green..." or "I used to think Trent was a leader..." Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I just don't see the statements Trent made being antithetical to being a leader.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by NewChief

That can be read as, "I don't blame them, I was the same way back then." To me, he's saying that Carl's a prick, and eventually they'll all find that out. Don't believe the BS that you're fed. He did, and it backfired on him.

Even if it CAN be read that way, it's still denigrating to the existing players on this team. There's no way to spin this that makes it not a derogatory comment.

Originally Posted by NewChiefs

I have zero problem with people saying, "I no longer feel that Trent's the leader of the Chiefs." What I have a problem with is people acting like he's lacking leadership quality or that he was never a leader of the team. People act like, since he said this, they've been wrong all along and Trent's really a horrible person and a cancer to the Chiefs. I can't tell you how many times on these threads I've read, "I used to like Trent Green..." or "I used to think Trent was a leader..." Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I just don't see the statements Trent made being antithetical to being a leader.

Pretty simply, I thought Trent was above this kinda stuff. Maybe I just had unrealistic expectations.

[booger]

Speaking of the Hicks situation................... I just can't believe those Dolphins. Those bastards.

Hanging on to Dante Culpepper like this. He is still rehabing and attending mini camp even though he isn't an air coryell qb and it's pretty obvious he is just a pawn until they get Green.

He doesn't even know who his next team will be. Or where his family will live or his kids will go to school.

Life is so unfair.

Yet he isn't going on local radio blasting the fins. He does get plenty of air time and all he talks about is his what he thinks his skills are and how his knee is getting better. Hell, he doesn't have his agent talking either because he is his own agent.

Plus he owes his current team nothing. His short career there has been less than stellar.

[Chief Roundup]

It took that comment more as they don't know the ropes yet or something more like that not insulting at all.

example: if you don't know where something is at in a building you will walk and wander around until you find it. You would do this because you didn't know any better.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

It took that comment more as they don't know the ropes yet or something more like that not insulting at all.

example: if you don't know where something is at in a building you will walk and wander around until you find it. You would do this because you didn't know any better.

Of course, that's not even remotely close to what he said.

He said that the Chiefs want to make changes IN PHILOSOPHY that may or may not be dumb.

He went on to say that THAT is the reason they're bringing in younger players - because said younger players won't question what's going on.

[booger]

Will someone please tell me who the players who Green talks to that seem to be confused or unsure of what is going on. I think it is safe to assume they are on the offense.

Other than Wiegmann or Samie Parker I can't think of any.

[Chief Roundup]

This whole interview came down to a few things.
Carl said A and then did B to him and basicly the same with Hicks. Carl telling them that they were going in a different direction when asked and not doing anything until it is late in FA making it very hard for Hicks to find a job.
If someone had done this to anyone here they would be pissed off too. We all need employment.

Carl ****ed this all up IMO. He shot his mouth off and then found the bullet in his big toe.