Kansas Football is going to go 10-2

ChiefaRoo · 10-03-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

What an idiot. As if KU needs more motivation to play K-State now you question their manhhod, smarts, and say there is no comparison between the teams? I really like they way this kid plays, but I can't stand when guys do this. Every time you really start liking an athlete they go and pop off something stupid like this. I'd like to think if Ron Prince saw this he's say something to this kid. This is just stupid.

Relax huge, McKinney is right.

**Lzen** · 10-03-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Relax huge, McKinney is right.

If he is correct, then explain why last year KU put a whoopin on your team?

Coach · 10-03-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

If he is correct, then explain why last year KU put a whoopin on your team?

Easy. Homefield advantage. When was the last time KU won in Manhattan?

**Lzen** · 10-03-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Easy. Homefield advantage. When was the last time KU won in Manhattan?

Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.

Coach · 10-03-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.

KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

**Skip Towne** · 10-03-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

OK, here's one for you. When was the last time KSU won at Bramlage?

Coach · 10-03-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

OK, here's one for you. When was the last time KSU won at Bramlage?

Aganist KU?

**Saulbadguy** · 10-03-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

Our recruiting was pretty bad from 2002-2006. Don't know what happened.

KU won in Manhattan in 1989. Before that? 1976. 2 wins in the past 30 years. However, if they are going to do it, the time is NOW. I don't see KSU getting any worse in the next few seasons.

Coach · 10-03-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Our recruiting was pretty bad from 2002-2006. Don't know what happened.

KU won in Manhattan in 1989. Before that? 1976. 2 wins in the past 30 years. However, if they are going to do it, the time is NOW. I don't see KSU getting any worse in the next few seasons.

I think it's a combination of things, that Snyder may had stuck around a little too long after 2003, but also the fact that Oklahoma got good and Texas got good, as well as assistant coaches under Snyder, who has excellent recruting skills left as well.

I think it's a combination of things into one.

ChiefsGirl · 10-03-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.

By that logic, OU and CU are comparible programs because Colorado beat OU at home?

K-State had a first year coach last year and they were coming off one of the biggest upsets of the year last year. Is it a coincidence that KU continues to schedule their bye week the week before the K-State game?