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Old 10-23-2007, 07:25 PM   #1
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not funny. especially if you've known someone die like that.
I have had a family member die from AIDS caused by being a heroin junkie.

I had (and have) very little sympathy for him. HIV isn't exactly a highly contagious virus. You have to seek it out through stupid and risky behavior, barring transfusions and the like.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:31 PM   #2
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I have had a family member die from AIDS caused by being a heroin junkie.
A girl that I dated from high school through sophomore year in college got it for trying it the first time. About a year later when she had meet someone else, POS didn't give her a clean needle.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:34 PM   #3
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A girl that I dated from high school through sophomore year in college got it for trying it the first time. About a year later when she had meet someone else, POS didn't give her a clean needle.
Sorry, no sympathy from me.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:29 PM   #4
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Actually, if true, this could be a very important step forward in the treatment of any number of auto-immune disorders.

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Old 10-23-2007, 06:32 PM   #5
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Actually, if true, this could be a very important step forward in the treatment of any number of auto-immune disorders.

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This sounds pretty specific. Basically it arrests the spread of HIV, then the body patches up the immune system by itself. Doesn't sound like that will apply widely. But I'm no doctor and I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn last night either.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:35 PM   #6
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Actually, if true, this could be a very important step forward in the treatment of any number of auto-immune disorders.

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Maybe a step. My disease is treated by suppressing my immune system with steroids. Making it "full strength" would kill me.
Well, first it would make me dumber than hell, then it would kill me.
Well, dumber than I already am, then...
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:51 PM   #7
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:55 PM   #8
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So... are you saying that the old Chris Rock joke is actually going to come true?
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:20 PM   #9
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So... are you saying that the old Chris Rock joke is actually going to come true?
It will be, if they create a vaccine. Is this the logical path of this 'cure'?

I also hear the immortal words of Dennis Miller: "Imagine the day they cure AIDS. If you can't get laid on that day, give it up."

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Old 10-23-2007, 07:02 PM   #10
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That's one, Mr. LOCOChief. There are quite a number of them.

Obviously, because this subject has little to do with the potentially harmful environmental impact of free range chicken poop, it's an area in which I have little or no knowledge. However, a lot of researchers specializing in auto-immune disorders believe that they are caused by the effect certain micro-organisms have on the white blood cells. Basically, the immune system is "tricked" into believing that "good" cells are "bad" and the immune system goes haywire and starts running around killing off the "good" stuff.

If, in fact, they are able to isolate HIV as or before it affects the white blood cells, it sounds as though this approach could hold some promise by also isolating the other micro-organisms which, in the case of auto-immune, are confusing the immune system. It's a thought, anyhow.

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Good, now they need to get started on that bastard cancer.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:41 PM   #12
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Good, now they need to get started on that bastard cancer.
eh, they can already treat certain kinds of cancer. however, the thing that makes us unique (our bodies are wonderful machines with complexity that none of us can truly even fathom) are part of what does us in. cancer is caused by rogue cells. the older we get, generally, the more our cells have gone through mitosis, therefore more open to genetic mutations piling up. we'll likely never truly cure cancer, just hopefully find more treatment options (that don't make patients wish they were dead--chemo and radiation were horrible when my grandpa had lung cancer) and find better ways to treat and diagnose it earlier.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:12 PM   #13
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However, a lot of researchers specializing in auto-immune disorders believe that they are caused by the effect certain micro-organisms have on the white blood cells. Basically, the immune system is "tricked" into believing that "good" cells are "bad" and the immune system goes haywire and starts running around killing off the "good" stuff.
Pretty close. The disease I have, chronic lymphocitic thyroiditis, aka Hashimoto's encephalopathy, is caused by my thyroid malfunctioning and causing my immune system to attack my brain. It damn near did me in about 1 1/2 years ago. It's a rare desease so it took a while for it to be diagnosed, meanwhile I was a babbling idiot in the hospital attacking everything that moved (did I mention it made me a tad aggressive?), once the figured out what the problem was I got steroid therapy which suppressed my immune system and allows me to function pretty much normally. I do have occasional relapses and I'm very succeptable to colds, rashes, and pretty much anything else.
I think MS is treated in pretty much the same manner. When I have a relapse I usually get steroid infusions alongside MS patients getting the same thing (solumedrol).
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Pretty close. The disease I have, chronic lymphocitic thyroiditis, aka Hashimoto's encephalopathy, is caused by my thyroid malfunctioning and causing my immune system to attack my brain. It damn near did me in about 1 1/2 years ago. It's a rare desease so it took a while for it to be diagnosed, meanwhile I was a babbling idiot in the hospital attacking everything that moved (did I mention it made me a tad aggressive?), once the figured out what the problem was I got steroid therapy which suppressed my immune system and allows me to function pretty much normally. I do have occasional relapses and I'm very succeptable to colds, rashes, and pretty much anything else.
I think MS is treated in pretty much the same manner. When I have a relapse I usually get steroid infusions alongside MS patients getting the same thing (solumedrol).
Man, oh man. I'm very sorry to hear about this, Mr. JohninGpt. Very sorry, indeed.

The treatment makes sense given what they know about auto-immune, though. They're shutting down the immune system which is reacting incorrectly to some influence. It would be wonderful if they could turn that around, identify the cause that is affecting the immune system, and address that instead. There's always hope, though, and advances like this might open the door to a true cure.

Meanwhile, here's to your health, my friend.

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Old 10-23-2007, 08:46 PM   #15
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and viral illnesses as well. Good news. Medicine is going to make tremendous advances in the next two decades and beyond.
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