Researchers Cure AIDS... not a joke.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

I can't roll my eyes to a disease that has led to millions of deaths.

Well, I can. At least those who rolled the dice, and lost. I feel all the sympathy in the world for those who contracted the virus through no fault of their own, however.

[mcan]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, I can. At least those who rolled the dice, and lost. I feel all the sympathy in the world for those who contracted the virus through no fault of their own, however.

People get AIDS from more than just heroin needles bro. It's a sexually transmitted disease. If you're going to not have sympathy for people who have sex, then you're living on a cold and lonely island indeed.

And how the hell is getting AIDS a just desert for people even if they DID do drugs?!! Let me ask you this: Would you rather have AIDS or get your dick bitten off by a polar bear? Easy to say AIDS, until the day comes when you're given the choice. You'll find me a unich pretty damned quick if my alternative is death. Now, I'm sure that even YOU would say that meeting the business end of a BEAR is cruel and unusual punishment... That nobody deserves that except the HITLERS and DAHMERS and CHILD RAPISTS. So how come some teenage dropout who gets hooked on drugs deserves worse than that?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by mcan

People get AIDS from more than just heroin needles bro. It's a sexually transmitted disease. If you're going to not have sympathy for people who have sex, then you're living on a cold and lonely island indeed.

And how the hell is getting AIDS a just desert for people even if they DID do drugs?!! Let me ask you this: Would you rather have AIDS or get your dick bitten off by a polar bear? Easy to say AIDS, until the day comes when you're given the choice. You'll find me a unich pretty damned quick if my alternative is death. Now, I'm sure that even YOU would say that meeting the business end of a BEAR is cruel and unusual punishment... That nobody deserves that except the HITLERS and DAHMERS and CHILD RAPISTS. So how come some teenage dropout who gets hooked on drugs deserves worse than that?

Yes, thank you. I'm intimately familiar with the causes. Risk versus reward. Other than being born with it or contracting the virus through a transfusion, you have to seek it out.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, I can. At least those who rolled the dice, and lost. I feel all the sympathy in the world for those who contracted the virus through no fault of their own, however.

rolled the dice? there are a number of ways to contract

[Donger]

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

rolled the dice? there are a number of ways to contract

Yes, there are. But, for example, if you engaged in 'non-safe' sex, you were rolling the dice. If you shot up junk with a needle you didn't know, you rolled the dice.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, there are. But, for example, if you engaged in 'non-safe' sex, you were rolling the dice. If you shot up junk with a needle you didn't know, you rolled the dice.

I totally agree with you. we, as Homo sapiens tend to be risk seekers.

however, one of the fatal flaws of human beings is that we're incredible stupid, and not perfect. regardless of how one contracts AIDS, it's a tragedy (no human life should end that way). a cure would be wonderful, and perhaps lead the sinners to the zen-like state that you're obviously in, correct?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by H5N1

I totally agree with you. we, as Homo sapiens tend to be risk seekers.

however, one of the fatal flaws of human beings is that we're incredible stupid, and not perfect. regardless of how one contracts AIDS, it's a tragedy (no human life should end that way). a cure would be wonderful, and perhaps lead the sinners to the zen-like state that you're obviously in, correct?

Nature's a bitch. I learned that at an early age and I've yet to see any explanation that is quite as succinct. Is it a tragedy that some junkie gets AIDS and dies? No, not in my opinion. It's a natural progression.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Donger

Nature's a bitch. I learned that at an early age and I've yet to see any explanation that is quite as succinct. Is it a tragedy that some junkie gets AIDS and dies? No, not in my opinion. It's a natural progression.

I can't argue with that. the part of me that's pursuing a career in the public health sector believes that everyone should have a chance to live their lives without having to worry about some super-bug killing them and their family. however, the logic in my brain states that we are the sum of every decision that we, as individuals, make. life IS a bitch. sometimes the dice come up snake-eyes.

but fucking up is nothing more than human nature. no matter how much more we evolve, there will be certain members of society who never amount to anything, make life-altering decisions, and die early deaths because of them. we'll never totally weed out these 'risk-takers' (although I almost don't call them that--it's too sterile), and I'm sure there will be two people having this same discussion in 100 years and/or 1000 years if we haven't killed ourselves off by then.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by H5N1

I can't argue with that. the part of me that's pursuing a career in the public health sector believes that everyone should have a chance to live their lives without having to worry about some super-bug killing them and their family. however, the logic in my brain states that we are the sum of every decision that we, as individuals, make. life IS a bitch. sometimes the dice come up snake-eyes.

but fucking up is nothing more than human nature. no matter how much more we evolve, there will be certain members of society who never amount to anything, make life-altering decisions, and die early deaths because of them. we'll never totally weed out these 'risk-takers' (although I almost don't call them that--it's to sterile), and I'm sure there will be two people having this same discussion in 100 years and/or 1000 years if we haven't killed ourselves off by then.

I agree, if that 'super-bug' can get them without any fault of their own. The fact remains that, sans accidental exposure, you have to seek this virus out through risky behavior. If you contract it through risky behavior, so be it. I view it no differently than I do some guy deciding to go base jumping and his parachute not opening.