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Old 12-05-2007, 08:53 PM  
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This guy has really, really stepped it up for KU this year. Good to see, especially since Kaun is remaining the same.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:20 PM   #16
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That's not true at all.
bullshit ... try actually paying attention to facts

total minutes

arthur - 177
jackson - 162
Kaun - 134

blocks

Kaun - 13
arthur - 11
jackson - 7

shooting %

Kaun - 80%
jackson - 58.8
arthur - 53.3%

Ave. Rebound

jackson 6.4
arthur 6.1
Kaun 4.1

steals

arthur - 8
jackson - 7
Kaun - 5
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:22 PM   #17
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:23 PM   #18
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bullshit ... try actually paying attention to facts

total minutes

arthur - 177
jackson - 162
Kaun - 134

blocks

Kaun - 13
arthur - 11
jackson - 7

shooting %

Kaun - 80%
jackson - 58.8
arthur - 53.3%
Shooting % in this case has nothing to do with total minutes played. You yourself said Kaun doesn't shoot much, of course he's more likely to have a higher shooting %
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #19
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you should be happy as hell ...... apparently Self as decided that Kaun is a scrub.



despite that fact that he still clearly are most productive and complete big man.
good lord, that's reeruned...Kaun can't do anything but dunk on the offensive end...he's missed more 1 ft shots than any player in history...

i like the guy, but saying he's a complete bigman is laughable..
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #20
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Shooting % has nothing to do with total minutes played. You yourself said Kaun doesn't shoot much, of course he's more likely to have a higher shooting %
all about the points with you ... you even looking at the rest of the stats that are DIRECTLY effected by less playing time.

Kaun is more productive ..... period


you just only see slam dunks and pretty shots
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:27 PM   #21
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good lord, that's reeruned...Kaun can't do anything but dunk on the offensive end...he's missed more 1 ft shots than any player in history...

i like the guy, but saying he's a complete bigman is laughable..
i said he is OUR most complete big man ... not that he was a complete big man

there isn't another big guy on KU that does everything as well as Kaun.


not saying much ..... but he's still the best we got.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #22
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all about the points with you ... you even looking at the rest of the stats that are DIRECTLY effected by less playing time.

Kaun is more productive ..... period


you just only see slam dunks and pretty shots
No what I see is a ****ing shit load of missed layups. It's like watching my 7yr old cousin play little league.

No one said you have to be a good shooter to be a good bigman down low offensively. Most centers aren't good shooters, but at this level, you for damn sure better be able to make it from inside a few feet most of the time. you could almost make an argument that he misses more from down there than he makes.

Are you really gonna argue about a 2 shot block difference? Like there really is any relevance to that at all?
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #23
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all about the points with you ... you even looking at the rest of the stats that are DIRECTLY effected by less playing time.

Kaun is more productive ..... period


you just only see slam dunks and pretty shots
You're right. Kaun is 20 of 25 from the field. Also notice KU's lead increases while he's in and decreases when he's out.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:30 PM   #24
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No what I see is a ****ing shit load of missed layups. It's like watching my 7yr old cousin play little league.

No one said you have to be a good shooter to be a good bigman down low offensively. Most centers aren't good shooters.

Are you really gonna argue about a 2 shot block difference? Like there really is any relevance to that at all?
how can you see a shitload of missed layups when Kaun shoots 80%?


and he has the 2 shot block difference in a fraction of the playing time.

same for rebounds,steals etc
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i said he is OUR most complete big man ... not that he was a complete big man

there isn't another big guy on KU that does everything as well as Kaun.


not saying much ..... but he's still the best we got.
no, he's not...he's not starting for a reason...
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no, he's not...he's not starting for a reason...
He started the Arizona game.
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no, he's not...he's not starting for a reason...
he's started more games then not
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Some guys were badmouthing Kaun on the KU board last year when a guy pointed out we were nearly always better off when he left the game than we were when he entered. I started paying attention to that and he was right.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:50 PM   #30
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Some guys were badmouthing Kaun on the KU board last year when a guy pointed out we were nearly always better off when he left the game than we were when he entered. I started paying attention to that and he was right.
it's the truth .....

if you look at the numbers, he's productive with the time he plays.

if you look beyond the numbers, we are a better "team" when he is on the floor.

lots of people don't want to hear it ... but it's true.
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