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Old 01-12-2008, 01:44 PM   #1
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since when do the smokes have the right-of-way?


so people need to go around and base their patronage on whether smokers decide to go there too?


maybe non-smokers should just ask permission......

no it is not about the smokers it is about the business owners...they have a right to decide what type of establishment to run...I'm sure there are people that wouldn't patronize a restaurant that encourages people to cuss while they order ( and get cursed back by employees--I know its out there just can't find it right away --in either NY or Chicago) so should the non-cursers have a right to legally ban it?
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:49 PM   #2
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no it is not about the smokers it is about the business owners...they have a right to decide what type of establishment to run...I'm sure there are people that wouldn't patronize a restaurant that encourages people to cuss while they order ( and get cursed back by employees--I know its out there just can't find it right away --in either NY or Chicago) so should the non-cursers have a right to legally ban it?
the problem is that it creates pressure on owners to legislate themselves at the risk of their business.

it should be reversed ... the pressure should be to "allow smoking" not prohibit it. Since smoking is the invasive action.

ban smoking .... then allow business to apply for permission to be a smoking establishment.

any business that does apply has to have signs up stating that it's a "smoking" environment.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:51 PM   #3
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the problem is that it creates pressure on owners to legislate themselves at the risk of their business.

it should be reverse ... the pressure should be to allow smoking not prohibit it. Since smoking is the invasive action.

ban smoking .... then allow business to apply for permission to be a smoking establishment.

any business that does apply has to have signs up stating that it's a "smoking" environment.

I would love for it to be that way but it is not because the "clean air" people won't allow it...so back to my irresponsible legislation and these are bad laws

honestly at this point you could make a fortune by owning/operating a bar/restaurant that allows smoking
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:02 PM   #4
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the problem is that it creates pressure on owners to legislate themselves at the risk of their business.

it should be reversed ... the pressure should be to "allow smoking" not prohibit it. Since smoking is the invasive action.

ban smoking .... then allow business to apply for permission to be a smoking establishment.

any business that does apply has to have signs up stating that it's a "smoking" environment.
Seems like a decent compromise.
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