KC residents - How are you voting on the smoking ban in April?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

I get it. What I want is for busybodies like you and your ilk to let people decide such things for themselves.

If they don't take responsibility for the smaller decisions (like smoking and trans fats) how can we expect people to make the big life-changing decisions?

All you are doing is encouraging a nanny-state, "government should take care of me" mind-set. That's the exact opposite of what built this nation, and what we need, IMO.

Put the information out there, but let people make up their own damn minds.

What you are pushing is a hand-over of self-responsibility to the government. Self-responsibility is an absolute good, and should be encouraged. I'll never understand why that's such a tough thing for you to accept, and I'm glad of that.



Exactly the point guys like Dane will never "get". It NEVER stops. First smoking, then trans-fats, then something else.

Okay, Mr. Havelock. Have it your way.

Why don't we just go away with agencies like the FDA, which are supposed to regulate food and drug. We ALL know that the corporations that create and sell these products are trustworthy and only look out for our best interests.

Why don't we just do away with the FAA? All the airlines no what to do. And as a matter of point, why is smoking no longer allowed on airline flights? Pesky government!

Maybe we should get rid of the FCC as well. That way, ONE or TWO corporations would be able to control the news, information and entertainment broadcast. Who the hell needs the FCC, anyway?

But why stop there? Let's get rid of local programs like the Better Business Bureau. I mean, businesses are all good and NO ONE EVER treats people with disrepect or could POSSIBLY be dishonest.

I finally get it now: Don't trust the Government. Don't trust ANYONE.

ANARCHY RULES!!!!

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe we should get rid of the FCC as well. That way, ONE or TWO corporations would be able to control the news, information and entertainment broadcast. Who the hell needs the FCC, anyway?

They pretty much already do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

They pretty much already do.

Actually, no.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually, no.

Are you kidding? Print- Hearst and a couple other magnates, TV-The big networks own all the little ones, Radio- Clearchannel and a couple other magnates, Movies- The big studios own the little ones. Sure, you have your alternative press, but nobody gives them any real credence in this country.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Are you kidding? Print- Hearst and a couple other magnates, TV-The big networks own all the little ones, Radio- Clearchannel and a couple other magnates, Movies- The big studios own the little ones. Sure, you have your alternative press, but nobody gives them any real credence in this country.

The airwaves are a government mandated monopoly. Cable companies, power companies, radio signals. All distributed by the government to a select few corporations. What a bad example.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Are you kidding? Print- Hearst and a couple other magnates, TV-The big networks own all the little ones, Radio- Clearchannel and a couple other magnates, Movies- The big studios own the little ones. Sure, you have your alternative press, but nobody gives them any real credence in this country.

I made a joke. You indicated that the media was run by only 2 corporations.

That is simply untrue.

There are dozens and dozens of print, television and radio corporations across this country - not to mention film and music companies.

Do I wish there were more? Absolutely.

But we're far from totalitarian state in regards to our media.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Okay, Mr. Havelock. Have it your way.

Why don't we just go away with agencies like the FDA, which are supposed to regulate food and drug. We ALL know that the corporations that create and sell these products are trustworthy and only look out for our best interests.

Why don't we just do away with the FAA? All the airlines no what to do. And as a matter of point, why is smoking no longer allowed on airline flights? Pesky government!

Maybe we should get rid of the FCC as well. That way, ONE or TWO corporations would be able to control the news, information and entertainment broadcast. Who the hell needs the FCC, anyway?

But why stop there? Let's get rid of local programs like the Better Business Bureau. I mean, businesses are all good and NO ONE EVER treats people with disrepect or could POSSIBLY be dishonest.

I finally get it now: Don't trust the Government. Don't trust ANYONE.

ANARCHY RULES!!!!

Consumer groups are a much more efficient form of control than government agencies.