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Old 02-28-2008, 09:53 PM   #1
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There's a big difference in a team talking about specific players and a guy saying "There is depth at these positions" when anyone that knows anything about the draft knows that already, several of us said that...

I think what he said was a round about way of saying "If we take a DT first we are pretty certain we can still get an OT and CB that start, where if we take an OT first we won't get as many players"

I wonder what all the people that argued with us will say considering how many times a few of us made this exact point.
They'll continue to argue.....

Just like the argument that Gholston would be a backup or situational player.
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:29 AM   #2
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I think what he said was a round about way of saying "If we take a DT first we are pretty certain we can still get an OT and CB that start, where if we take an OT first we won't get as many players".
There really wasn't any "round about" about it.

He said that there were really only 2 sure-fire starting DT's in this draft. He even specifically compared the lack of depth at the DT position to the presence of depth at OT.

And he said that if the run on CB's should start late (aka 2nd round) that starting-caliber CB's might be available as late as the FOURTH...
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:13 AM   #3
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There really wasn't any "round about" about it.

He said that there were really only 2 sure-fire starting DT's in this draft. He even specifically compared the lack of depth at the DT position to the presence of depth at OT.

And he said that if the run on CB's should start late (aka 2nd round) that starting-caliber CB's might be available as late as the FOURTH...
If jake is on the board he will be a Chief.

I will be thrilled if we get Ellis/Dorsey, BUT if I really wanted J.Long I would be saying the same things he did, to sell the other teams on the two DTs, and OT depth, in essence increasing the chances of landing him.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:43 AM   #4
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Herm understands that you build D front-to-back...and also that strong D's are strong in the middle (usually, the Giants are an exception it seems)

we are weak at DT and MLB and have been for a damn decade....Ellis/Dorsey solve that problem...and I think Herm knows it....
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:45 AM   #5
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:14 AM   #6
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I don't think that's really selling, what he said is honest and anyone who follows the draft knows that.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:19 AM   #7
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I don't think that's really selling, what he said is honest and anyone who follows the draft knows that.
"Hey everybody this is exactly how we see it."

Truth, and honesty aren't always the same thing.
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Also selling the depth at CB so that maybe some teams hold off on the top guys. S M O K E.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:22 AM   #9
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There's nothing to sell.

The depth at OT and CB, and the lack of depth at DT, are WIDELY-HELD opinions. Just about every scout, draftnik, and fan the follows the draft knows it.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:24 AM   #10
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There's nothing to sell.

The depth at OT and CB, and the lack of depth at DT, are WIDELY-HELD opinions. Just about every scout, draftnik, and fan the follows the draft knows it.
The Truth is what is being sold. It helps their cause to do so.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:26 AM   #11
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Um every single team in the draft thinks what he said....

Any fool that takes 5 minutes to look at each position in the draft realizes what he said is a spot on evaluation.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:30 AM   #12
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Um every single team in the draft thinks what he said....

Any fool that takes 5 minutes to look at each position in the draft realizes what he said is a spot on evaluation.
Then I guess this thread is completely worthless since everyone already knows all this shit.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:48 AM   #13
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Then I guess this thread is completely worthless since everyone already knows all this shit.
From an information standpoint, yeah it's worthless.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:32 AM   #14
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Wait a minute. I just reread the thread starting post, and it has been edited. Some things deleted.
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