Chiefs Meet With Otah

[KC4EVER]

Chiefs | Team meets with Otah
Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:40:13 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Kansas City Chiefs met with University of Pittsburgh OT Jeff Otah Monday, March 24.

I think the chiefs hope they can grab him in the second, wich is considerable since we pick early in most rounds.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Brock

I predict I will be doing a lot of laughing at this board on draft weekend.

I'm already planning out my snacking menu now.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by alanm

I'm already planning out my snacking menu now.

[melbar]

In the same breath Tank and Turk faded later in the year (spending most of every game on the field way to much) Still have great potential. Boone and Edwards were at least adequate.
Our needs on the D-line may not be as great as some/most might think.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by melbar

In the same breath Tank and Turk faded later in the year (spending most of every game on the field way to much) Still have great potential. Boone and Edwards were at least adequate.
Our needs on the D-line may not be as great as some/most might think.

Defensive linemen rotate. The Chiefs probably need one more in the middle and another end or two.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by melbar

In the same breath Tank and Turk faded later in the year (spending most of every game on the field way to much) Still have great potential. Boone and Edwards were at least adequate.
Our needs on the D-line may not be as great as some/most might think.

It's not about need, it's about quality, if one has a chance to draft an elite player if it's not a position of "need" then select that player. It's like saying Would you want Warren Sapp or John Tait. One is a game changer, and the other is solid player nothing more.

[melbar]

Gholston is a lazy game day guy who had a great workout. Clady is a 2-3 spot "reach". Gholston doesnt fit our Defense and would have to take time to learn to play the run while we hope he starts giving every play. I only hope the Raiders take him so we can run at him all day long and forget him by the 4th quarter. NOT and elite prospect. ONCE AGAIN 2-3 spots isnt a reach otherwise all the teams would just take the next guy on the overall players list.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by melbar

In the same breath Tank and Turk faded later in the year (spending most of every game on the field way to much) Still have great potential. Boone and Edwards were at least adequate.
Our needs on the D-line may not be as great as some/most might think.

No one is suggesting that D-Line is a great need.

We are saying that the D-Line can really become dominant with a rotation that includes a dominating DT, and one of those is very likely to be available when we are up at 5.

If Jake Long is gone, selecting Dorsey or Ellis over Ryan Clady is a no brainer.

I'd take them over Long, since I don't believe he's the elite LT prospect that others do, but I won't be pissed if he's there and the Chiefs take him.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Brock

Defensive linemen rotate. The Chiefs probably need one more in the middle and another end or two.

O=linemen dont and we dont even have starters at most positions let alone solid backups

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by melbar

In the same breath Tank and Turk faded later in the year (spending most of every game on the field way to much) Still have great potential. Boone and Edwards were at least adequate.
Our needs on the D-line may not be as great as some/most might think.

Wow.

The only other DT on the roster right now is TJ Jackson, if that tells you anthing about our lack of depth.

Boone is 32 and Edwards is 35. Tanks and Turk BETTER work out, because right now, they are all we have at DT for the future.

We're in even worse shape at DE.

Allen and Hali are the only DE's on the roster.

I'd say that DL is a pretty damn strong need.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by milkman

No one is suggesting that D-Line is a great need.

We are saying that the D-Line can really become dominant with a rotation that includes a dominating DT, and one of those is very likely to be available when we are up at 5.

If Jake Long is gone, selecting Dorsey or Ellis over Ryan Clady is a no brainer.

I'd take them over Long, since I don't believe he's the elite LT prospect that others do, but I won't be pissed if he's there and the Chiefs take him.

I agree. I'm not sure I'd take Ellis first, but I Think more of Long (see 1 penalty and 2 sacks his entire college career. But Dorsey, C. Long are dominant game changers who have the potential to be perennial Pro-Bowlers almost immediately.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by melbar

Gholston is a lazy game day guy who had a great workout. Clady is a 2-3 spot "reach". Gholston doesnt fit our Defense and would have to take time to learn to play the run while we hope he starts giving every play. I only hope the Raiders take him so we can run at him all day long and forget him by the 4th quarter. NOT and elite prospect. ONCE AGAIN 2-3 spots isnt a reach otherwise all the teams would just take the next guy on the overall players list.

I notice you keep mentioning Gholston, but avoid mentioning Dorsey or Ellis.....

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by melbar

I agree. I'm not sure I'd take Ellis first, but I Think more of Long (see 1 penalty and 2 sacks his entire college career. But Dorsey, C. Long are dominant game changers who have the potential to be perennial Pro-Bowlers almost immediately.

Not picking on you, but since you said it....

Why are people so hung up on Long's 1 penalty and 2 sacks?

If he got to play Michigan's schedule again this year, that might be of interest.

He has to play against 16 of the best DE's in the world. The best of the best.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by melbar

perennial Pro-Bowlers almost immediately.

Isn't that by definition impossible?

[melbar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wow.

The only other DT on the roster right now is TJ Jackson, if that tells you anthing about our lack of depth.

Boone is 32 and Edwards is 35. Tanks and Turk BETTER work out, because right now, they are all we have at DT for the future.

We're in even worse shape at DE.

Allen and Hali are the only DE's on the roster.

I'd say that DL is a pretty damn strong need.

Your right we do need both. Like I said in my last post Dorsey especially would be understandable to choose over Long (I dont think there is a chance in Hell we have to deal with that decision). I dont think we're going to have many choices as we will choose the elite player that is left on the board, I just dont think that if we're taking a player who is not a top 5-6 player (depending on what we think of Ryan and McFadden) then I'd rather go for an OT who has the potential to be the best LT in this draft and I've never seen ranked lower than 2nd and would be on the field every play, over a workout warrier who is an incomplete player and is ranked from 2-8 at a position where he will be rotating with 2 better players on our roster.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Isn't that by definition impossible?

touche'