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Old 04-10-2008, 07:08 PM   #1
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What should the Chiefs do if Matt Ryan from Boston College, considered the standout quarterback in this draft, is sitting there when it’s time to make the fifth overall pick?
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Draft him and don't look back. Then they can throw out the trash after the season and get a fresh start, with Ryan, in '09. This one's easy IMO.
If we DO take him, I don't see the point of waiting until 2009 to start him - get him out there and break his ass in. We have little/nothing to play for as it is.

Otherwise, you're spending a Top 5 pick on a guy that won't likely make an impact until 2011, if he makes one at all.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:10 PM   #2
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If we DO take him, I don't see the point of waiting until 2009 to start him - get him out there and break his ass in. We have little/nothing to play for as it is.

Otherwise, you're spending a Top 5 pick on a guy that won't likely make an impact until 2011, if he makes one at all.
I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:17 PM   #3
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Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.
Id be down with that. Most teams that have stopgap QB's do this.

Even Eli didnt start until halfway or towards the end of his his rookie year. The Giants had Kurt Warner to take the lumps.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:18 PM   #4
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I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.
I guess I'm more optimistic about the OL than you are.

IMO, no matter WHO plays, it will be better than last year, because dumbass Solari won't be hanging them all out to dry.

A reeruned monkey on a meth bender could do a better job of situational play calling than Solari did.

People are so worried about "David Carr-ing" a QB.

If this kid is as mentally tough and a great leader that some claim him to be, getting beat up a bit isn't going to shell-shock him.

Get him building a rapport with Bowe and the others ASAP.

By the time this kid hits his stride (approximately 3-4 years after getting the starting gig, see: Rivers, Philip and Manning, Eli) Dwayne Bowe is going to be twenty-****ing-eight years old.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #5
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People are so worried about "David Carr-ing" a QB.

If this kid is as mentally tough and a great leader that some claim him to be, getting beat up a bit isn't going to shell-shock him.
Agreed. David Carr had more than enough chances to prove himself. People can make all the excuses they want for him but he just wasnt very good.

At some point a good QB will rise above his situation, make plays and lift the team up around him.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:23 PM   #6
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Agreed. David Carr had more than enough chances to prove himself. People can make all the excuses they want for him but he just wasnt very good.

At some point a good QB will rise above his situation, make plays and lift the team up around him.
Exactly.

People just assume that the OL ruined a #1 overall pick, when really it was that the kid just didn't have some combination of the talent, smarts and heart to play at this level.

Christ, John Elway is the most sacked QB of all time. He turned out OK.
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I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.

Oh man , that is rich.
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