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[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by SBK

In Atlanta you can't smoke in restaurants at all. There's one place that I know of called The Vortex that found a workaround. You have to be 18 to eat there. It's a burger joint (a really good one I hear) during the day, and a Swinging Richards or Manhole type of bar at night I hear.

I love eating out and not smelling like smoke. I love not getting sinus infections anymore because I'm in the non-smoking area, but the booth behind me is smoking.

And speaking of people complaining about not being able to smoke, are you pissed that you can't smoke on airplanes anymore?

If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

I disagree. If an air carrier decides to offer flights that include smokers, the carrier should be allowed to do just that.

If the carrier decides that they can fill flights by offering nonsmoking fights, they should be encouraged to do that as well. It has nothing to do with enclosed areas; It has everything to do with the owner of the business offering what he chooses to offer.

The market gets to decide whether he guessed correctly.

Don't buy it if you don't like it.

Damn. Where did our balls go?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I disagree. If an air carrier decides to offer flights that include smokers, the carrier should be allowed to do just that.

If the carrier decides that they can fill flights by offering nonsmoking fights, they should be encouraged to do that as well. It has nothing to do with enclosed areas; It has everything to do with the owner of the business offering what he chooses to offer.

The market gets to decide whether he guessed correctly.

Don't buy it if you don't like it.

Damn. Where did our balls go?

I agree with the principle. If that's a risk that John Q Consumer wants to take, why shouldn't he be allowed too if the company is willing to let him?

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

I agree with the principle. If that's a risk that John Q Consumer wants to take, why shouldn't he be allowed too if the company is willing to let him?

I'd respectfully ask you to get your mind back to the inherent right of the business owner to offer a service that thrives or fails. It's his (and often his stockholders') business. That's all that matters, IMO.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I'd respectfully ask you to get your mind back to the inherent right of the business owner to offer a service that thrives or fails. It's his (and often his stockholders') business. That's all that matters, IMO.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not in the camp of saving people from themselves. I guess with certain arguments though, rather than continue with the same rebuttals, I'm inclined to try and show people that their logic is flawed in more than 1 area.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

I used a plane as an example because flights used to be smokey as heck until the FAA decided it was a bad idea. You just don't hear anyone complain today that they cannot smoke on a flight anymore....Restaurants will be the same way.