Jonathan Rand: What if (Matt) Ryan's there?

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Doesn't matter. Either way the Chiefs will make the wrong decision.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Guru

Doesn't matter. Either way the Chiefs will make the wrong decision.

Wow. You're a glass is 1/2 empty kind of guy aren't ya.

Dwayne Bowe to this point looks like an outstanding pick. Cheer up.

[milkman]

Even if the Chiefs could draft Ryan, they’d have to wonder who’d be blocking for him. It makes no sense to commit a high pick to a quarterback if you can’t protect him, and the Chiefs stand three starters short of a decent line. When the Browns drafted Quinn, they’d already solidified their protection by taking Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas with the third overall pick.

This is the dumbest argument one could possibly make against drafting a top 5 QB.
Yeah, JR, we can't possibly consider taking a QB, cause there isn't any hope at all that the O-Line can't be fixed with later picks in this draft, and in the next draft.

Houston’s David Carr was a classic case of a highly drafted quarterback who received scant protection. The first overall pick in 2002, he was sacked 249 times during his first years as a Texan. Recently released by the Panthers, it’s tough to know whether Carr ever had the tools to win in the NFL. But it’s fair to say it was hard for him to develop while staring at the sky.

David Carr is not a classic case.

That Houston O-Line, while pretty bad, was made to look worse than they were by David Carr.

The guy could never read defenses, and held on to the ball too long, something that was listed as a weakness for him when he was coming out of school.
He never learned.

I said before the '07 season that I thought the Texans would give up almost half as many sacks without Carr.

I haven't looked up the numbers, but I'd bet that was a pretty good guess.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by milkman

This is the dumbest argument one could possibly make against drafting a top 5 QB.
Yeah, JR, we can't possibly consider taking a QB, cause there isn't any hope at all that the O-Line can't be fixed with later picks in this draft, and in the next draft.




David Carr is not a classic case.

That Houston O-Line, while pretty bad, was made to look worse than they were by David Carr.

The guy could never read defenses, and held on to the ball too long, something that was listed as a weakness for him when he was coming out of school.
He never learned.

I said before the '07 season that I thought the Texans would give up almost half as many sacks without Carr.

I haven't looked up the numbers, but I'd bet that was a pretty good guess.

They gave up 22 sacks last year.

Just goes to show that the QB is just as responsible for allowing a sack as the OLmen are.

Hell, the Chiefs were an example of that last year.

Damon Huard was sacked once per 9.22 attempts with the starting OL the majority of the time.

Brodie Croyle was sacked once per 13.17 attempts, with his action coming at the end of the year when they were playing backups such as Niswanger and Taylor, and McIntosh was out.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by milkman

This is the dumbest argument one could possibly make against drafting a top 5 QB.

Yeah, JR, we can't possibly consider taking a QB, cause there isn't any hope at all that the O-Line can't be fixed with later picks in this draft, and in the next draft.

100% agree.

What I love even more about that argument is that there's not an O-linemen that will be available worthy of the 5th pick when we draft anyways. Long will be gone and everybody else IMO will be a reach at 5.

So we won't begin to rebuild the O-line until round 2 anyways... It's the same thing.

[NUMBER7]

Originally Posted by suds79

100% agree.

What I love even more about that argument is that there's not an O-linemen that will be available worthy of the 5th pick when we draft anyways. Long will be gone and everybody else IMO will be a reach at 5.

So we won't begin to rebuild the O-line until round 2 anyways... It's the same thing.

Excellent point...why take a chance when you can pick the number 4 rated player in the draft.