Eric Bakhtiari, DE, San Diego

[Direckshun]

Sounds like a late round sleeper, to be honest.

I've heard of the guy but haven't seen much, but with all the attention paid to Josh Johnson I'd be surprised if teams didn't know about him.

[milkman]

He's one of those high motor guys.

He's probably maxed out in terms of size, and his best fit would probably be as a pass rush specialist.

But then, his desire is such that he might end up being a solid 3 down defender.

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by milkman

He's one of those high motor guys.

He's probably maxed out in terms of size, and his best fit would probably be as a pass rush specialist.

But then, his desire is such that he might end up being a solid 3 down defender.

Back in 2004 they said that Jared lacked the upside too, yet he also won the Buck Buchanan and only had 17.5 sacks his senior year. Not saying this kid is going to be the next JA, just thinking he might be able to be had for a mid to lower round pick and make an impact as a 3rd down pass rusher. If anybody has any of his workout numbers, I'd love to see them. I'm guessing he didn't do well or was hurt or something, I just can't imagine why a kid that leads the NCAA in sacks doesn't get any print.

I haven't seen anything on him.

[Direckshun]

How could you be the Chiefs and not love what you see in that guy?

Great find, Ralphy Boy. Makes you think.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Back in 2004 they said that Jared lacked the upside too, yet he also won the Buck Buchanan and only had 17.5 sacks his senior year. Not saying this kid is going to be the next JA, just thinking he might be able to be had for a mid to lower round pick and make an impact as a 3rd down pass rusher. If anybody has any of his workout numbers, I'd love to see them. I'm guessing he didn't do well or was hurt or something, I just can't imagine why a kid that leads the NCAA in sacks doesn't get any print.

I haven't seen anything on him.

I think what some people see as a fatal flaw for this kid is height.

Allen was 6'6" and about 265, so he had some room to grow.

Bak is only 6'3", so he is potentially maxed out in terms of size, and that is a red flag.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Back in 2004 they said that Jared lacked the upside too, yet he also won the Buck Buchanan and only had 17.5 sacks his senior year. Not saying this kid is going to be the next JA, just thinking he might be able to be had for a mid to lower round pick and make an impact as a 3rd down pass rusher. If anybody has any of his workout numbers, I'd love to see them. I'm guessing he didn't do well or was hurt or something, I just can't imagine why a kid that leads the NCAA in sacks doesn't get any print.

I haven't seen anything on him.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=73052

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by milkman

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=73052

Thanks. 4.80 40 is kinda slow for an OLB, but pretty good for a DE. I'd say that like Terrell Suggs a few years ago, the slower 40 time has something to do with the weight (260 lbs). Suggs could have dropped the pounds to get a better 40 time, but he was also a tweener type and was hearing from half the coaches that they'd play him at DE and the other half OLB. If he drops a few pounds, he'd likely gain some speed, he weighs more than most ILB's.

Looking quickly at NFL rosters:
John Abraham is 6'4 and weighs 266
Bertrand Berry 6'3, 264
Andre Carter 6'4, 252
Trent Cole 6'3, 270 (12.5 sacks)
and of course
Dwight "Shorty" Freeney 6'1, 268

[Chris Meck]

I think it's unlikely that Jared Allen weighed any more than that this past season. He was decidedly slimmer than in the past.

260 isn't a problem for a RDE if it's a SOLID 260. If he's kinda soft at 260, then he needs to drop it or convert to muscle. Being a little shorter there isn't a problem either, as it can help with getting lower than the typically taller, heavier LT's.

I guess I'm saying it all depends on the individual. Lighter DE's can be found doing rather well in the NFL at that spot.

[Ralphy Boy]

went undrafted. got to be worth signing as an undrafted free agent.