You grade the draft- all 7 rounds (Poll)

[banyon]

2008 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS DRAFT
(Pick Analysis by NFL.com)

1a. (5) DE - GLENN DORSEY - 6-1 - 297 - LSU
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.


Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor.

1b. (15) T/G - BRANDEN ALBERT - 6-5 - 316 - VIRGINIA
Combine 40 Time: 5.17.


Pick Analysis: Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.

2. (35) CB BRANDON FLOWERS - 5-9 - 187 - VIRGINIA TECH
Combine 40 Time: 4.55.


Bench Press Champion. Pick Analysis: With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.

3a. (73) RB JAMAAL CHARLES - 5-11 - 199 - TEXAS
Combine 40: 4.38.


Pick Analysis: The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.

3b. (76) TE BRAD COTTAM - 6-7 - 269 - TENNESSEE
Combine 40 Time: 4.68.

Analysis
Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.

3c. (82) S DAJUAN MORGAN - 6-0 - 203 - NC STATE
Combine 40 Time: 4.52.

Pick Analysis: Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.

4. (105) WR WILL FRANKLIN - 6-0 - 209 - MISSOURI
Combine 40: 4.37.


Pick Analysis: At over 6-feet and 214 pounds, Franklin has impressive speed (he ran a 4.3 40) for a guy his size. He is extremely explosive and was generally graded as a third rounder, so Kansas City gets good value in the fourth round

5. (140) CB BRANDON CARR - 6-0 - 207 - GRAND VALLEY ST.

Pick Analysis:Carr went under the radar as a Division II All-American for Grand Valley State. He has good size for a cornerback, but looked more like an athlete than a football player at times. He needs to work on his technique.

6a. (170) T BARRY RICHARDSON - 6-6 - 319 - CLEMSON
Combine 40 Time: 5.47.


Pick Analysis: He's a huge guy who runs well and has talent, but it has been said he lacks passion for the game. If a coach can motivate him and get him excited about playing football, he may well wind up being a find at the guard position.

6b. (182) WR KEVIN ROBINSON 6-0 190 -Utah St.
Combine 40: 4.69.


Pick Analysis:Robinson is the best return man in the country out of Utah State. The competition isn't great in the WAC and it could be tough for him to adjust to the pro game. Still, he's very good at what he does and is an excellent special teamer.

7a. DE BRIAN JOHNSTON 6-5 280 Gardner-Webb
40 speed (non-combine): 4.78


With the advent of the 34 defense in the NFL, those jumbo defensive ends like Johnston have been much sought after. Johnston has fought almost constant double teams, which is why his 6 sacks don’t look that impressive, but he has proven to be very solid against the run, despite being double teamed, his 74 tackles, 20.5 being for a loss, prove that he can fight through multiple blockers and get to the ball carrier. Very good at using his hands, strong and quick, Johnston plays the game with a non-stop motor. He will have to increase his repertoire of pass rushing moves and continue to train to get stronger and quicker in the NFL, but he has the raw talent and skills to warrant a 4th or 5th round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft.

7b Michael Merrit TE So. Florida Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 270 pounds

Pick Analysis: A prototypical blocking tight end, Merritt has good size and strength. He is not a threat in the passing game, but can be utilized in jumbo packages.

[banyon]

Wow Kiper is raving about our draft.

[Mecca]

If Morgan isn't awesome you guys are gonna **** with me aren't you...

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Morgan isn't awesome you guys are gonna **** with me aren't you...

We're going to fuck with you either way.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by banyon

Wow Kiper is raving about our draft.

Yeah.

Bizarroworld.

[Ultra Peanut]

Merrit is the Very Obvious Successor to Jason Dunn.

[MTG#10]

WTF??? Dude looks like a tranny.

[Rain Man]

It appears that we went with a pure BPA approach. On Day One, those players happened to be at positions where we have need, and on Day Two, they tended to be at positions where we have starters already in place. Time will tell if it's a good strategy.

That said, I like all of the individual players a lot. We got some good football players for this football program, which will let us go play football like football should be played. Football.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It appears that we went with a pure BPA approach. On Day One, those players happened to be at positions where we have need, and on Day Two, they tended to be at positions where we have starters already in place. Time will tell if it's a good strategy.

That said, I like all of the individual players a lot. We got some good football players for this football program, which will let us go play football like football should be played. Football.

Aren't you supposed to be partying?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by banyon

Aren't you supposed to be partying?

The police came and broke it up.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Morgan isn't awesome you guys are gonna **** with me aren't you...

Remember Roy and Scanlon?

[Rain Man]

With the search function disabled, all I recall about this draft is Mecca talking about Morgan being the next Ronnie Lott and wanting him with our first-round pick.

[bigdreams1]

A++++++++++++

Projected Depth Chart
QB: Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Daman Huard
FB: Oliver Hoyte
RB: Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Kolby Smith--2nd is tough, both great players
WR 1,2,3: Dwayne Bowe, Bobby Sippio, Will Franklin
TE: Tony G, Brad Cottom
LT: Brandon Albert
LG: Brian Waters
C: Wade Smith
RG: Barry Richardson
RT: Damion McIntosh
WOW line looks alot better

LE: Brian Johnston...ya i said it
DT:Tank Tyler
DT: Glen Dorsey
RE: Tamba Hali
LOLB: Demorrio Williams
MLBonnie Edwards
ROLB: DJ
CB: Pat Surtain
CB:Brandon Flowers
SS: Bernard Pollard, or Dajuan Morgan
FS: Jarrad Page

KR/PR: Kevin Robinson

Talk about improvement...if next year goes anything like this draft i think were big contenders in 2010

[Ultra Peanut]

RB: Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Kolby Smith--2nd is tough, both great players

I think it's more likely that Kolby's the backup, while Charles is a third-down/spell back.

[Coach]

Here's mine.

This is possibly the best draft the Chiefs have done in quite some time. Now, I know that you can't officially grade a draft until 2-3 years later, and that is correct. However, I am grading off on right now, not 2-3 years. We'll worry about that when the time does come. So, that being said, here goes.....

(Round 1, Pick 5) Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU. Wow. I mean, wow. Who the hell let the possibly the best player on the board slip through 4 picks? Kansas City just got the best player on the board on the 5th pick. A steal and a excellent value for the 5th spot. Dorsey is going to be a pain in the ass for the AFC West teams for years to come. It's going to be fun watching this guy play, and disrupting the backfield. I should also point out that he did play in a very tough conference in the SEC, and he dominated that league when healthy. Even that, a 75% healthy Dorsey can still be productive in this league. What a great value. What a great player. A+ TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 1st round, 3rd pick to Atlanta.

(Round 1, Pick 15) Branden Albert, T/G, Virginia. A great pick. I was worried about the Clady issue, since I wasn't really confident on Clady and the compeition level that Boise played. Even that, Albert can play either the G or the T position, which tells you how athletic he is. The Chiefs may have found their LTOTF (Left Tackle of the future) with this guy, since he does work well in space, and does have excellent feet. He finishes blocks down the field as well. And if he doesn't do well at the LT position, at worst, he's a Pro-Bowler Guard. But even that, Albert is really good, and he has the potentional to become the best O-Line in the draft. A+ TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 1st round 12th pick to Denver.

(Round 2, Pick 35) Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech. Another great pick by Kansas City. Jesus, they just pulled a ****ing turkey, by selecting Brandon Flowers. Now, you'll say he's small. So what? Pretty much almost all CB's in the NFL is small, so that is irrevelent. His 40 time is 4.55? Sure, but keep in mind, we play in a Cover 2, which does not reqiure speed, but instincts and physical play. I should also point out about his 40 time. If he was 1/10ths of a second, he would have been in the top 10, easily. But even that, he plays faster than his 40 time indicates. The Chiefs just found Ty Law's replacement. A TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 2nd round, 33rd pick to St. Louis.

(Round 3, Pick 73) Jammal Charles, RB, Texas. I was a bit surprised with this pick, since it was "out of left field" but then I remembered that the Chiefs had to play Battle on the RB spot because LJ was already injured and Smith was injured as well, and the Chiefs already had traded Bennett at the time. This guy runs a 4.38, so he does have homerun speed. He may lack strength, but he does make it up for his break-away speed. Perfect for screens/dumpoffs/shovel passes, etc. It also provides some RB depth for KC as well. Also I believe he does return kicks, but I'm not 100% sure at this. Even that, it still provides depth, and he can get some playing time for this year. B+ TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 2nd round, 58th pick to Jacksonville.

(Round 3, Pick 76 Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee. This was also a head scratcher as well, but then I remembered that Dunn was done, Kris Wilson was a clossical failure at TE, and that Gonzo may have at least 2-3 good years left on him. So spending for the future replacement here makes sense, especially a tall TE who does run pretty well on the 40 time. I remember that ESPN did highlighted Cotton before the round 3 started, so they were watching for him, and when KC made the pick, they were surprised and said that KC made a hell of a steal on this guy at 3rd. This guy is 6'8" and 270, and he runs a 4.69, which is the 4th best by a TE. He's a very solid blocking TE, who still has room for improvement here. So, he'll be getting some playing time, epsecially on Gailey's double TE's sets on 3rd and short/4th and short situations, and he may get a few passes thrown his way. B- TheFootball Expert.com had him projected at 3rd round, 72ndth pick to Buffalo.

(Round 3, Pick 82) DaJuan Morgan, S, NC State. Jesus, the Chiefs are on the roll here. They selected a guy who was, in most mocks, in the 2nd to 3rd rounds, and they got him in the late 3rd round. Wow. This guy is probably the best safety on the roster, and it's not even funny. Page is serviceable in the FS spot, but Morgan is perfect fit for a Cover 2 S. One would have to wonder if Pollard is going to be either moved to ST, or the LB spot? He ran a 4.52 in the 40 which is pretty solid for a SS. A- TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 2nd round, 46th pick to Cincinnati.

(Round 4, Pick 105) William Franklin, WR, Missouri. A great value on the 4th round for a team that is in need for a receiver, since Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker was released, and nobody other than Bowe, pretty much showed up on Sundays. Webb isn't the answer for the potentional #2 receiver, and the fact that Franklin has amazing speed (4.37) can really be the down the field threat for the Chiefs. He will help get some of the attention away from Bowe. If all fails, he'd make a serviceable slot player. B- TheFootballExpert.com had him projected at 4th round, 113th pick to Chicago.

(Round 5, Pick 140) Brandon Carr, CB, Grand Valley St.. This pick is probably the first WTF moment for the Chiefs. Did we reach for him? Could be possible. He does have nice size and decent speed (allegedlly) in 4.4 range. The Chiefs are stockpiling their defensive backs, since more than likely that Wesley and Surtain may be gone after the end of the 2008 season. But this one here seems to me more of a Herm pick, since he always does this kind of stuff. (See Maxey) C- TheFootballExpert.com did not have him projected anywhere in the 7 rounds.

(Round 6, Pick 170) Barry Richardson, T, Clemson. A great pick in this area. This guy is huge and a mauler at the T position, and it does address the O-line issue. Now it doesn't necessary address ALL of the issues, but really, Rome wasn't built in a day. The issue with him is his motivation. Now, knowing that Herm is a very passionate movitator, this may work out to be the best advantage for the Chiefs. C+ TheFootballExpert had him projected at 5th round, 137th pick to St. Louis.

(Round 6, Pick 182) Kevin Robinson, WR, Utah State. Not a intruging pick, unless you look at one interesting stat. This guy is the best return man coming out of college, and we all know how inept our special teams return abilities were last year. I'm not so sure how he'll do as a receiver, but at least it does in a way provide depth. He's probably more strictly for special teams. C TheFootballExpert does not have him projected anywhere in the 7 rounds.

(Round 7, Pick 210) Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner-Webb. What a great value for a 7th rounder. This guy is a freak, and how did he get in the 7th round, is unknown to me! His 40 time is great, but his 10 second time frame is unbelieveable. He'll be coming off the edge pretty damn quick. He could be a situational pass-rusher for the Chiefs in some certain downs, provided if he is what he is capable of. He was consistently double teamed, which explains his low sack total, but he's equally effective aganist the run as his tackle for losses was a conference record of 24. This one has a potentional of being a next Jared Allen, minus the boozing issue. B+ TheFootballExpert had him projected at 5th round, 147th pick to Buffalo.

(Round 7, Pick 2320 Michael Merrit, TE, So. Florida Not sure what to make out of this one. Probably just camp fodder. Even that, this pick has no weight nor grade to hurt or help the rest of the grade. A prototypical blocking tight end, Merritt has good size and strength. He is not a threat in the passing game, but can be utilized in jumbo packages. Incomplete yet irrevelent TheFootball Expert does not have him projected anywhere in the 7 rounds.

Total grade: A+

[bigdreams1]

ya i think your probably right on that...all i know is we now have two very capable back for full time load in johnson and smith with a home run type guy in charles