Picture of a ghost?

[BIG_DADDY]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1216051.ece

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The same way you can't see X-rays. The same way a camera lense sees things your eyes don't.

What is physical? Who defined what physical is and what did they base that on? Did they analyze a "poltergeist" when they defined the word physical?

Dude science is nothing more than an explanation of what we think we already know.

X-rays are easily detectable by many means other than human eyes. Something that has never been done involving ghosts.

And science has one advantage that you're grossly overlooking. Testability. Being able to duplicate results in a controlled environment. Another something that has never been done involving ghosts.

Through time and science, all things are revealed. People have been trying for thousands of years to prove the existence of ghosts, and have come up with nothing but grainy videos and blurry pictures. We can map the human genome, but we can't prove the existence of ghosts? Why has there been zero progress in the area of paranormal when we've progressed in nearly every other area area of human existence?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by little jacob

i would like to see the 'proof' you can 'see ghosts'.

on what energy do these beings operate?

Are you familiar with the law of the conservation of energy?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by little jacob

nevermind after reading this page it appears the discussion is among true believers for whom no proof is required and no reproof would be sufficient

I think it's more of a page where people can discuss the probability of there being ghosts and talk about their personal experiences. I don't think anyone expects you to just believe them, I know I don't. Furthermore I think a lot of people don't know what they are experiencing and this provides a spot to talk about it. Just because you have not had an experience doesn't make anyone else's any less real. I know for me personally OBE's made my perception of everything and the possibilities change dramatically. I don't know what it is for sure but since I experienced it I could never look at the things the same again.

[Redrum_69]

Maybe ghosts are really just pissed off gasoline fumes

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

X-rays are easily detectable by many means other than human eyes. Something that has never been done involving ghosts.

And science has one advantage that you're grossly overlooking. Testability. Being able to duplicate results in a controlled environment. Another something that has never been done involving ghosts.

Through time and science, all things are revealed. People have been trying for thousands of years to prove the existence of ghosts, and have come up with nothing but grainy videos and blurry pictures. We can map the human genome, but we can't prove the existence of ghosts? Why has there been zero progress in the area of paranormal when we've progressed in nearly every other area area of human existence?

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I think it's more of a page where people can discuss the probability of there being ghosts and talk about their personal experiences. I don't think anyone expects you to just believe them, I know I don't. Furthermore I think a lot of people don't know what they are experiencing and this provides a spot to talk about it. Just because you have not had an experience doesn't make anyone else's any less real. I know for me personally OBE's made my perception of everything and the possibilities change dramatically. I don't know what it is for sure but since I experienced it I could never look at the things the same again.

Yeah but who is anyone to tell you what you experienced wasn't real?

I bet if you said you saw Jesus as opposed to a generic ghost half, not all but half I would bet would all the sudden believe you.

[Redrum_69]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah but who is anyone to tell you what you experienced wasn't real?

I bet if you said you saw Jesus as opposed to a generic ghost half, not all but half I would bet would all the sudden believe you.

What if YOU saw Jesus and he said "become a writer for WPI" would you do it...or just brush it off thinking you may have just seen the false prophet.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

What if YOU saw Jesus and he said "become a writer for WPI" would you do it...or just brush it off thinking you may have just seen the false prophet.

hmmmm if he referenced WPI I might have to question him....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

What if YOU saw Jesus and he said "become a writer for WPI" would you do it...or just brush it off thinking you may have just seen the false prophet.

And for the record. I have seen Jesus. And he has seen me.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

We arent talking about ghosts from pitbulls....

...

We can only hope those exist.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Your idea on the refusal to accept ethereal beings doesn't hold up whatsoever. Cameras and video cameras don't have these preconceived human notions. Why aren't there obvious pictures and videos showing all these spirits? Something obvious that isn't easily reproduced? Why can't spirits be detected by any known method that can be replicated?

And efforts have been made. Since humans began explaining their surroundings efforts have been made by people who believe in it. They all have failed.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

You're asking why we as a society haven't put as much money into finding ghosts as we have in biology?

Same reason we aren't spending millions to find unicorns or leprechauns.

[SithCeNtZ]

Originally Posted by petegz28

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

No. The thing about science is, if you can be made famous for it, someone will attempt to figure it out. If someone could actually prove the existence of a "ghost", they would win the Nobel Prize and it would be considered one of the greatest discoveries in human history. With all of that on the line, don't you think someone would have gone after it by now? What about all of the ghost hunter shows? All they need is some repeatable actions to produce a ghost and they would make millions. Why haven't they done that yet? Lack of trying? Did they just not want the fame and millions of dollars? The offer is, and always has been, on the table: Make a sitution that can consistently turn out a ghost in some way shape or form and you become famous. To say that people ignore that offer just because their parents told them it wasn't possible completely ignores how man has acted in its history. If the money is there, people will follow.

I think ghosts are alot like psychics. Many people claim to have had a psychic reading that was unexplainable and swear psychics are for real, and yet why hasn't anyone become rich beyond their wildest dreams if it were real? If you were a real psychic, wouldn't you be calling up every newspaper in town to prove your abilities? People would pay any price to have their questions answered, to communicate with the dead, see the future etc etc...and yet no one does it. The fact they leave money on the table tells me they know they would be found out if they ever went prime time. Same situation with ghosts. The money is there to be had, why has no one come forward with anything?

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Yeah, Mohillbilly has a few to tell. They're fugged up beyond belief.

--------i just did a search to retell my story this is true and i was sober.-------

i might have told this on here before i dont know----------


My Father died in the house i live in know i held him as he breathed his last breath in this world.
20 years old

I wasnt working (the grief made me crazy) and needed some cash so i was going to sell his car to the junkyard.
Salvage guy shows up and i cant find the title anywhere(id been looking all morning) so my dad was a teacher and had personality and his students always gave him stuff.
one student gave him a kiln fired bust of himself (we called it Roys shrine to Roy)
he also played the piano-

anyway im standing there and i ask him.

"ive never asked for nothin and i really need some help"

and at that instant the metronome(sp?) on the bookshelf starts ticking.

underneath it was the title.

now you have to unlatch a metronome or it will keeptime....they dont just automate on there own.

thats real shit right there boys and girls.

i miss him everyday.

[Fat Elvis]

502 Osage in Manhattan, KS is haunted.


I don't live there anymore, so I don't care about giving out the address....

[blueballs]

Redrum's mom is like a ghost
the only thing you can really feel
is scared