Alright, let's settle this once and for all...

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great

Wow, excellent job taking the statement that catchers are more important than utility outfielders and crafting it into a claim that outfielders are not important at all. I was going to ask why you havent bothered to refute any of the statistics that prove Buck, while not that great himself, is clearly better than Olivo. But obviously you were too busy creating that strawman.

The only thing that anyone here can score for Olivo is that he is a better hitter, but even that is hardly true. Olivo has a career batting average of .241. Buck has a career average of .239. Wow, look at the amazing difference.

Olivo has a career OBP of .276, which is dreadful. Buck has an OBP of .300 for his career. So even if his career batting average is a whopping .002 less than Olivo, he still gets on base far more often. And that has continued to hold true this season. Olivo has a career OPS (on-base plus slugging) of .688. Buck is .704.

Anyone who is claiming that Olvio is a much better hitter than Buck, at the end of the day your argument boils down to this: in this half season so far, Olivo has a higher BA by .009 points, he has 4 more HRs, and has 1 more run batted in. My, what a landslide. Oh, and dont forget, Buck actually gets on base more.

The only reasonable argument for giving Olivo more time over Buck is that Olivo is clearly better at throwing out base runners. Get a stopwatch, tell a baseball manager that he needs to make a switch at catcher for that reason, and let us know how long he laughs.

why are we talking about career statistics now? i don't care what either one of them has done in the past. if you watch the games, you can just tell that miguel olivo is better at everything. john buck can't hit a pitch faster than 90 mph. all you have to do to strike him out is throw 3 straight fastballs. he can't hit, he can't run, he can't throw, he can't even catch all that well, and his job description is CATCHER. i can't think of any reason why anybody would like him at all. he is such a terrible, terrible baseball player, and i can't believe that anybody is defending him.