The Death Penalty

[Rain Man]

For the record, I think MicJones' stance is fine if his philosophy is no death penalty for anyone, regardless of crime. While I don't necessarily agree with it, I think it's a valid position for signing such a petition.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

For the record, I think MicJones' stance is fine if his philosophy is no death penalty for anyone, regardless of crime. While I don't necessarily agree with it, I think it's a valid position for signing such a petition.

Agreed. MicJones you have a right to believe what you want to believe, I just see it differently. I feel for the family of the victims, and in my opinion, if I were them I would want justice. Why should he live when he played God and helped decide who lived and who died.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Agreed. MicJones you have a right to believe what you want to believe, I just see it differently. I feel for the family of the victims, and in my opinion, if I were them I would want justice. Why should he live when he played God and helped decide who lived and who died.

That's a good way to put it.

I agree with MicJones' general premise that life is sacred (though I'm a hypocrite because I kill bugs and spiders). I think my justification for the death sentence in cases like this is that the murderer violated this premise of sacredness (sacredity? sacredosity?), and therefore forfeits his right to expect the same. It's kind of a balancing of the karma of the universe.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

That's a good way to put it.

I agree with MicJones' general premise that life is sacred (though I'm a hypocrite because I kill bugs and spiders). I think my justification for the death sentence in cases like this is that the murderer violated this premise of sacredness (sacredity? sacredosity?), and therefore forfeits his right to expect the same. It's kind of a balancing of the karma of the universe.

exactly. If the guy had gotten caught up in a situation that spun out of control and a life was taken, then yes, perhaps this man should have gotten life in prison. But they went on to kill two more people, the man was completely aware of what he was doing the whole time.

I agree with your balance statement 100%

[jennilyn]

Thurman the letter you posted "by his wife" was written by a woman who once put her arms around my mother and shared words of condolence. The woman who wrote this letter was once a Kansas City news reporter. She covered the murder of Richard Drummond. The woman who worte this letter also stood in the court room when I stood merely inches behind her then husband (why she chose to marry a man who was being tried for 3 murders I will never understand) and begged the judge show no leinancy for Dennis Skillicorn's crimes of murdering my aunt and uncle. I spoke that day for my family, for my aunt and for my uncle. Honestly with that said how can you even think about requesting signatures on a case I imagine you do not know ALL the facts to written by a woman who was once appauled by this mans actions?

Sorry but it is petitions like this one that sicken me. The date of exectution ironically was set to be on the date He murdered Charlene and Joe Babcock.
The stay was granted... my family is sick over it. A man who participates in five murders...deserves no stay... no clemency... no bs letters written for him.

Thanks to all you who have the ability to see beyond this pathetic.. "pitty my murderer husband letter".
Guess you can bet I wont be signing this petition.

[Frazod]

That sucks. All these do-gooder anti-death penalty morons should be locked in a room with the people they're trying to save for a couple of days. I'd bet any who survive the experience would change their tune in big damn hurry. And if none survive, that's OK, too.

What was the basis of the stay, and for how long?

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Originally Posted by jennilyn

Thurman the letter you posted "by his wife" was written by a woman who once put her arms around my mother and shared words of condolence. The woman who wrote this letter was once a Kansas City news reporter. She covered the murder of Richard Drummond. The woman who worte this letter also stood in the court room when I stood merely inches behind her then husband (why she chose to marry a man who was being tried for 3 murders I will never understand) and begged the judge show no leinancy for Dennis Skillicorn's crimes of murdering my aunt and uncle. I spoke that day for my family, for my aunt and for my uncle. Honestly with that said how can you even think about requesting signatures on a case I imagine you do not know ALL the facts to written by a woman who was once appauled by this mans actions?

Sorry but it is petitions like this one that sicken me. The date of exectution ironically was set to be on the date He murdered Charlene and Joe Babcock.
The stay was granted... my family is sick over it. A man who participates in five murders...deserves no stay... no clemency... no bs letters written for him.

Thanks to all you who have the ability to see beyond this pathetic.. "pitty my murderer husband letter".
Guess you can bet I wont be signing this petition.

Damn, that is terrible. Sorry to hear that.

The good thing as you can see here, 90% of the people in this thread wanted that sorry excuse for a human being to burn in hell. The problem is that the number of dumbass morons in this world (the ones who signed the petition) outnumber the number of smart people.

[RJ]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

For the record, I think MicJones' stance is fine if his philosophy is no death penalty for anyone, regardless of crime. While I don't necessarily agree with it, I think it's a valid position for signing such a petition.

I'm in agreement with that. I still think he's flat out wrong, but if you're against the death penalty then you have to be against it across the board. Which is something I just can't bring myself to do.........some people have done things so wrong and so horrible and so cruel that they just flat out deserve to die, that there is just no good reason to keep them alive.

Based on the information we have I'd never sign a petition asking for any concessions or leniency. Sometimes you gotta give the judge and jury the benefit of the doubt.