Is there a franchise QB in next year's draft?

[KChiefs1]

I'm think the Chiefs draft Oher from Ole Miss in the first round & then the QB in round two.

[VonneMarie]

Chase Daniels.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

That would be paying a lot of money and wasting a high pick for a RT or guard. Unless Albert has a horrible season or there is no one else of value left where we pick (unlikely), I wouldn't take Oher.

Yeah, I bet Seattle was terribly disappointed in spending the 17th pick and all that cash on Hutchinson...

[Basileus777]

Its too early to judge this year's qb class. A full season is an eternity in college football. We don't know what juniors will declare. We haven't seen the combine or the senior bowl.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you really want a sure pick in the draft at tackle, it's Eugene Monroe. He doesn't have Oher's upside, though.

Eh. I don't think Monroe has the versatility of Oher or Andre Smith and frankly I don't think he's any better. I'd definitely prefer those two over him. I do have a thing for uber athletic linemen though.

[ChiefsCountry]

If Huard is the quarterback we wont get the first pick. It will be lower - it would probally net us Rey Maualuga. Which would be an upgrade for our defensive quite a bit. Make one sick defense for sure.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Eh. I don't think Monroe has the versatility of Oher or Andre Smith and frankly I don't think he's any better. I'd definitely prefer those two over him. I do have a thing for uber athletic linemen though.

I think that Oher and Smith are better prospects, but if you are looking for a Tamba Hali-esque sure thing, it's Monroe. That's all I was saying.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

What kind of reeruned logic is that? The downfall wasn't the offense, it was the defense.

It's reeruned logic because it doesn't jive with your point? This is a QBs league and QBs win Super Bowls. That's why teams fall all over themselves to try and draft the riskiest position in the game - they know the rewards are great.

That's great and I'd agree with you if there was a franchise QB available that high. I don't see one I'd want right now and that's why I'd take Oher.

Interesting point, but most draft prognosticators disagree with you.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

It's reeruned logic because it doesn't jive with your point?

No, it's reeruned logic because you're holding what was the best OLine in football responsible for the team's horrible defense. You could have won plenty of Super Bowls with that offense, despite having the league's worst set of WRs, an undrafted running back who got scooped up in free agency, and a journeyman quarterback. That was seriously one of the least talented(in terms of skill positions) great offenses in the history of the game and it was because of the offensive line.

Originally Posted by eazyb

This is a QBs league and QBs win Super Bowls. That's why teams fall all over themselves to try and draft the riskiest position in the game - they know the rewards are great.

I don't know which part of my post wasn't clear. I don't see a franchise quarterback worthy of being taken that high and you don't just reach for one.

Originally Posted by eazyb

Interesting point, but most draft prognosticators disagree with you.

I think most scouts would agree with me. I think Stafford is at least debatable as to whether he's top 10-15ish material(I'm talking about in terms of talent, not where he'll get picked), but after that there really isn't much. As it stands, next year is a pretty bad QB class.

[ChiefaRoo]

Go**ammit. I've said it for years. KC should of taken Drew Brees. He's a modern day version of Lenny Dawson. I hate Dick Vermeil and Carl.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Go**ammit. I've said it for years. KC should of taken Drew Brees. He's a modern day version of Lenny Dawson. I hate Dick Vermeil and Carl.

I was on that bandwagon. I loved Trent Green but Brees would have been nice.

[SAUTO]

[QUOTE=HolmeZz;4996846]No, it's reeruned logic because you're holding what was the best OLine in football responsible for the team's horrible defense. You could have won plenty of Super Bowls with that offense, despite having the league's worst set of WRs, an undrafted running back who got scooped up in free agency, and a journeyman quarterback. That was seriously one of the least talented(in terms of skill positions) great offenses in the history of the game and it was because of the offensive line


priest WAS talented no matter if he was a FA he was talented, he played well at texas, won a sb with bal., had over 1000 one year with bal. he WAS talented. Green was going to be the corner piece for sl before he was hurt, also we had the best TE ever

[Mecca]

Depends who's coming out....which no one really knows.

[evolve27]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I was on that bandwagon. I loved Trent Green but Brees would have been nice.

Man, I miss the Trent Green passing days.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

No, it's reeruned logic because you're holding what was the best OLine in football responsible for the team's horrible defense. You could have won plenty of Super Bowls with that offense, despite having the league's worst set of WRs, an undrafted running back who got scooped up in free agency, and a journeyman quarterback. That was seriously one of the least talented(in terms of skill positions) great offenses in the history of the game and it was because of the offensive line.

Please show me where I was "holding the best Oline in football responsible for the team's horrible defense". Duh, the defense sucked, but the overriding point, for the third time now, is that QBs win in this league, not offensive lines. I'm not sure if you're a former Olineman that has a stick up his ass, but QBs are more valuable than offensive linemen. Again, that's why teams fall all over themselves to draft the riskiest position in football at the top of the draft year after year.

I don't know which part of my post wasn't clear. I don't see a franchise quarterback worthy of being taken that high and you don't just reach for one.

I think most scouts would agree with me. I think Stafford is at least debatable as to whether he's top 10-15ish material(I'm talking about in terms of talent, not where he'll get picked), but after that there really isn't much. As it stands, next year is a pretty bad QB class.

Stafford is currently predicted as a top three, if not the top overall pick in the draft. If that's not a potential franchise QB to you, then no offense, but you're a football moron. He has everything you look for in a QB in terms of measurables, leadership, and savvy. Who knows what will happen between now and next April, as Stafford could fall off a cliff and/or other QBs could rise to the top, but at this point it's just foolish to act as if next year is a shitty year for QBs.

[Mecca]

If guys like Bradford and Sanchez come out you're going to see 3 QB's with possible top 5 pick status associated with them...and I'm sure some here will say none of them are worth it.