NFL Draft Let's put all the QB talk right here - Page 15

Mecca · 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM

Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.

oaklandhater · 09-24-2008, 12:49 PM

incase any one was wondering here is the top 27 QB's of the draft

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009QB.php

Tim Tebow*, Florida
Height: 6-3. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Projected Round (2009): Top 5 Pick.
2007: ESPN's Jesse Palmer said that Tim Tebow moved himself into Heisman consideration in the wake of his performance at Ole Miss. I have to agree. Tebow's passing numbers were great - 20-of-34, 262 yards, two touchdowns - but his rushing numbers were downright spectacular (26 carries, 164 yards, two more scores).

Tebow passed his first true test with flying colors. The sophomore was 14-of-19 for 299 yards, two touchdowns and one interception against Tennessee. He also rushed for 61 yards and two more scores on the ground.

Where will Tim Tebow be drafted? Check out the Great Tim Tebow Debate and vote!

Sam Bradford**, Oklahoma
Height: 6-4. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2009): Top 10 Pick.
3/26/08: Sam Bradford is going into his redshirt sophomore year, so he'll be eligible for the 2009 Draft. If he matches his 2007 numbers this upcoming year, I see no reason why he woudn't come out early. Bradford threw for 3,121 yards, 36 touchdowns and only eight picks - as a freshman. Unbelievable. Can we get a birth certificate?

Matt Stafford*, Georgia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2009): Top 10 Pick.
3/26/08: Matt Stafford improved upon his freshman campaign, throwing for 2,523 yards and 19 touchdowns. He did, however, complete just 55.7 percent of his passes.

2007: I'm not as high on Matt Stafford as other people are. Call me crazy, but I'm not sold on a guy who compiled way more picks (13) than touchdowns (7), even if he was a freshman. Stafford threw three interceptions against both Mississippi State and Kentucky - not the greatest opponents in the world.

Stafford looked good against Auburn (14-20, 219 yds, 7 carries, 83 rush yds, 2 total TDs) and Georgia Tech (16-29, 171 yds, 1 TD), but things fell apart for him in the Chick Fil-A Bowl against Virginia Tech, where he went 9-of-21 for 129 yards, one touchdown and an interception. Stafford doesn't have the greatest weapons to work with, so I admit that I'm being a little harsh in my criticism.

Cullen Harper, Clemson
Height: 6-4. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2009): Top 25 Pick.
3/26/08: In his first season of extensive action, Cullen Harper threw for 2,887 yards, 27 touchdowns and only six interceptions. He qualified for the 2007 All-ACC Second Team.

Curtis Painter, Purdue
Height: 6-4. Weight: 223.
Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
3/26/08: Curtis Painter threw for less yardage (3.846) than he did as a sophomore, but he compiled more touchdowns (29 to 22), less interceptions (11 to 19) and a higher completion percentage (62.6 to 59.4).

Painter threw for more yards (3,985) last year than any player in Purdue history, which includes Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. That said, after starting hot in 2006, Painter was largely ineffective against Wisconsin (20-40, 187 yds, 1 INT), Penn State (22-39, 184 yds, 2 INTs), Illinois (20-42, 229 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT) and Indiana (4 INTs).

Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
Height: 6-5. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
2007: This is sort of like the Carson Palmer-Matt Leinart situation at USC. Hunter Cantwell stepped in for an injured Brian Brohm in 2006 and threw for 700 yards, five touchdowns and two picks, maintaining a completion percentage of 64.3. One of the top prospects in the nation who will have to wait until the 2008 season to play.

Mark Sanchez*, USC
Height: 6-3. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
Will likely take over for John David Booty in 2008. Only threw seven passes as a freshman, so there isn't much film to digest.

Todd Boeckman, Ohio State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 243.
Projected 40 Time: 4.76.
Projected Round (2009): 3.
3/26/08: Todd Boeckman improved throughout the 2007 campaign but looked very mediocre against LSU in the national championship, going 15-of-26 for 208 yards, two touchdowns and two picks.

2007: A massive quarterback with a great arm, Todd Boeckman really proved himself by throwing for 257 yards and three scores at Penn State.

Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.77.
Projected Round (2009): 3-4.
3/26/08: The Southland Offensive Player of the Year, Nathan Brown compiled 3,084 yards, 26 touchdowns and 10 picks as a junior. Level of competition is obviously an issue, but he's worth consideration in the third or fourth rounds.

Tom Brandstater, Fresno State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.77.
Projected Round (2009): 3-4.
3/26/08: After a miserable sophomore campaign, Tom Brandstater finally lived up to the hype, as he managed 2,654 yards, 15 touchdowns and just five interceptions in 2007.

Colt McCoy*, Texas
Height: 6-3. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2009): 4.
3/26/08: Colt McCoy had a disappointing sophomore year, throwing 18 picks after just seven in 2006. His completion percentage dropped three points as well.

2007: McCoy threw interceptions like a madman in a 20-point loss to Kansas State. Through five games, he has way more picks than he had as a freshman.

McCoy's freshman campaign reminds me a bit of Philip Rivers' 2006 season. The Longhorns, much like Marty Schottenheimer, didn't let their young quarterback loose until midway through the season.

When McCoy was allowed to fire at will, he tore it up. He threw for six touchdowns against Baylor. He compiled 346 yards and three scores against Oklahoma State. He accumulated 256 yards and four touchdowns at Texas Tech. He was 26-of-40 for 308 yards and two scores in the Alamo Bowl against Iowa. There's no reason to think McCoy will regress; he has great weapons at his disposal and plays in a weak conference.

Dan LeFevour*, Central Michigan
Height: 6-3. Weight: 226.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2009): 4.
5/1/08: Looking to be the next NFL quarterback from the MAC, Dan LeFevour threw for 3,652 yards, 27 touchdowns and only 13 picks in 2007. He completed 65.4 percent of his passes, and rushed for 1,122 yards and 19 scores.

Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 199.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
Projected Round (2009): 4.
3/26/08: Rudy Carpenter puts up some nice stats - for the most part. He threw for 3,202 yards, 25 touchdowns and only 10 picks in 2007. So, what's the problem? Carpenter was sacked 54 times. The Sun Devils currently have the top center prospect in the 2008 Draft, so it's not like he had no protection.

Graham Harrell, Texas Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 196.
Projected 40 Time: 4.73.
Projected Round (2009): 4-5.
3/26/08: Another Texas Tech quarterback? Sort of - Graham Harrell is much better than any of his predecessors. Still, it's a bit scary to take a signal caller from a school that has produced nothing but NFL duds (see Florida Gators as another example). Harrell, like Chase Holbrook and Colton Brennan, produces disgusting numbers because of his offense. He threw for 5,705 yards, 48 touchdowns and 14 interceptions in 2007.

2007: Something scouts won't be able to measure is Harrell's ability to perform in the clutch. Down 31 points with less than eight minutes remaining in the third quarter against Minnesota, Harrell engineered the greatest comeback in bowl history, beating the pathetic Golden Gophers, 44-41.

Chase Daniel, Missouri
Height: 6-0. Weight: 223.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2009): 4-5.
2007: Chase Daniel's 6-foot frame really hurts him. Plenty of small quarterbacks have succeeded in the NFL, so that doesn't mean Daniel will be a bad signal caller; it just means he won't get drafted as high as he should.

One attribute that will help Daniel is his scrambling ability; he's quick and has shown that he's capable of picking up yards on the ground. In terms of passing, Daniel completed more than 50 percent in every single game. He ended his 2006 campaign with three interception-less games. He threw for 240 or more yards 11 times, finishing with 3,527 yards, 28 touchdowns and just 10 picks.

Brian Hoyer, Michigan State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.83.
Projected Round (2009): 5-6.
3/26/08: Brian Hoyer was pretty impressive in 2007, considering he was a first-year starter. He accumulated 2,725 yards, 20 touchdowns and 11 picks.

Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
Projected Round (2009): 5-6.
3/26/08: Chase Holbrook regressed in 2007; after 34 touchdowns and nine picks as a sophomore, Holbrook had 26 touchdowns and 18 interceptions last season.

2007: Thanks to the ESPN Hype Machine, everyone talks about Colton Brennan, and not Holbrook. Yet, both are very similar collegiate quarterbacks - they put up sick numbers in gimmicky offenses. At 6-5, 235, Holbrook is a better pro prospect than Brennan (6-3, 196), in my opinion.

Holbrook threw for 4,619 yards, 34 touchdowns and just nine interceptions as a sophomore last year. In his final game against Louisiana Tech, he was 41-of-54 for 514 yards and three touchdowns. An even more amazing statistic is that Holbrook finished the 2006 campaign with 179 consecutive passes without a pick.

Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 218.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2009): 6.
3/26/08: Remember when this guy looked pretty impressive as a red-shirt freshman in Oklahoma? Well, after being dismissed for taking money from boosters and missing the entire 2006 season, Rhett Bomar resurfaced and compiled 2,209 yards and 10 touchdowns in nine starts in 2007.

Stephen McGee, Texas A&M
Height: 6-3. Weight: 208.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2009): 6-7.
3/26/08: After throwing just three picks in his first two years, Stephen McGee tossed eight interceptions in 2007.

2007: McGee was very inconsistent last year. For example, he was 19-of-23 for 183 yards and a score against Missouri. Three weeks later, he completed just eight passes (and one interception) in a 17-16 loss to Oklahoma. McGee was only a sophomore, but he needs to grow considerably over the next two years.

Sean Glennon, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-4. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2009): 7.
3/26/08: Needs to be more consistent to warrant draft consideration.

Willie Tuitama, Arizona
Height: 6-3. Weight: 211.
Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
Projected Round (2009): 7.
3/26/08: Put up solid numbers as a junior (3,683 yards, 28 touchdowns, 12 picks) and only had one really bad game (at Oregon State). Even against USC, Willie Tuitama managed to complete 30-of-43 attempts for 233 yards.

John Parker Wilson, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 209.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2009): 7.
2007: John Parker Wilson doesn't exactly have the size that will make scouts salivate, but he has shown the ability to come up large in the clutch. Wilson was 16-of-20 for 243 yards and three scores at Arkansas. He was also 22-of-35 for 291 yards, two touchdowns and a pick at LSU. Any quarterback who can put up those numbers against LSU, especially on the road, has my respect.

Mike Reilly, Central Washington
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
Projected Round (2009): 7.
3/26/08: A transfer from Washington State. Mike Reilly compiled 3,386 yards and 30 touchdowns, maintaining a completion percentage of 62.3 in 2007.

Joe Ganz, Nebraska
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2009): 7-FA.
3/26/08: Considering what he was able to accomplish at the end of the 2007 season, it'll be exciting to watch Joe Ganz this year, especially now that Nebraska fans won't have to worry about Bill Callahan screwing up any game plans. In just three starts, Ganz threw for 1,399 yards, 15 touchdowns and seven picks. Nebraska scored 163 points in those three contests.

Nate Longshore, California
Height: 6-5. Weight: 233.
Projected 40 Time: 4.88.
Projected Round (2009): FA.
3/26/08: Nate Longshore regressed in his junior year after a solid sophomore campaign. He threw only 16 touchdowns and managed a completion percentage under 60. One has to wonder how much he'll struggle without DeSean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins and Craig Stevens in 2008.

Ben Olson, UCLA
Height: 6-4. Weight: 231.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2009): FA.
3/26/08: Ben Olson struggled coming back from a knee injury in 2007, failing to complete 50 percent of his passes.

2007: Olson's 2006 season had three distinctive parts to it. In his first two games, he threw 442 yards, five touchdowns and one pick. The following two contests, Olson was guilty of four interceptions and no scores. On Oct. 7, Olson suffered a season-ending knee injury against Arizona. Thus, Olson's pretty much an enigma at this point.

One glaring negative: Olson will be 26 in April 2009. That may scare a few teams away.

Bobby Reid, Texas Southern
Height: 6-3. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.63.
Projected Round (2009): FA.
3/26/08: Bobby Reid was the quarterback that sparked the controversy between Oklahoma State's head coach and the media. Reid was reported as being a soft player whose mother fed him chicken after the game. I'd comment on this, but I don't want Mike Gundy slitting my throat or anything.

2007: A tremendous athlete, Bobby Reid leads a potent Oklahoma State offense that averaged 39.2 points per game in 2006. But that doesn't mean Reid's a great prospect. The rising junior failed to complete more than 50 percent of his passes on four occasions. He was also very inconsistent, going 23-of-35 for 411 yards and five scores at Kansas, and 11-of-31 for 145 yards, one touchdown and a pick at Texas Tech.

Reid's a scrambling quarterback, so he can get out of tight situations when pass protection fails, but his aerial game leaves much to be desired. Furthermore, one can only speculate how effective (or rather, ineffective) Reid will be once Adarius Bowman moves on to the NFL.

Brock · 09-24-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Who needed a QB?

Lions, Vikings, Dolphins, Jaguars.

**the Talking Can** · 09-24-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Agreed.

I believe that we already have a couple of guys that would upgrade the OL, in Taylor and Richardson.

My plan, right now, would be to draft Stafford in the first, Selvie or Spikes in the second ( I believe one of these will be there at the top of the second round), and maybe a guy like Alex Mack in the third.

works for me...though i'd be shocked to find selvie in the 2nd, but who knows...getting either would be a major coup (and why i am rooting against more than 2 wins this year...if you're going to suck, suck hard...don't go half way)....

then we need to spend some FA $$$ on a proven #2 or #3 WR, and some vet ol depth (if not a starter)....

ChiefsCountry · 09-24-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Lions, Vikings, Dolphins, Jaguars.

Vikes took Peterson
Dolphins got blasted for taking Ginn
Lions are the Lions
Jags still had Leftwich and Garrard.

Brock · 09-24-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Vikes took Peterson
Dolphins got blasted for taking Ginn
Lions are the Lions
Jags still had Leftwich and Garrard.

They all needed QBs though.

SBK · 09-24-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

They all needed QBs though.

And if the guy that every other team would have taken drops past the top 10 someone is going to trade up. We needed a QB and didn't move. The Browns needed a QB and passed at 3.

If Quinn was higher rated than where he was taken someone would have drafted him higher.

Brock · 09-24-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

And if the guy that every other team would have taken drops past the top 10 someone is going to trade up. We needed a QB and didn't move. The Browns needed a QB and passed at 3.

If Quinn was higher rated than where he was taken someone would have drafted him higher.

He may turn out to be good. But I don't think he would have gone #1 under any circumstances.

ChiefsCountry · 09-24-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

The Browns needed a QB and passed at 3.

Browns made sure their franchise QB was going to stay upright first.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-24-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Todd Boeckman, Ohio State
Projected Round (2009): 3.

HAH!

crazycoffey · 09-24-2008, 01:10 PM

I think the plan is for Chan/Herm to coax Cordell out of retirement. He was on "Pros vs. Joes" still awful.

milkman · 09-24-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

HAH!

I watched that Wisconsin-Fresno St. game the same day that OSU played USC, and I was far more impressed with that Brandstater kid than Boekman (who hasn't ever impressed) and I wouldn't draft him.

Pablo · 09-24-2008, 01:13 PM

I wouldn't be too upset with Stafford, Sanchez or Bradford. Although it's only probable we'll get a chance to go after Stafford at this point. I don't see how any Chiefs fan could be disappointed with any of the 3 after watching horrible to decent QB play for the last 2+ decades.

Stafford has a slightly better arm than Bradford. He has a slightly better build. Bradford is probably the better game manager of the two, and he doesn't make mistakes. As far as mobility...they're both mobile enough to make due in this league. I can't hate on Stafford. He looks a bit rusty at times, but it's college. I expect that. I wouldn't be upset at all with the pick.

And as far as Oher possibly grading out to be the best LT prospect in years...well, we took an LT with our 15th pick. He may have been a G, but we drafted him to play LT, and he's done a pretty damn good job in his first three starts, especially going up against Abraham and Seymour.

Albert is our LT of the future, and I could understand the desire to lock up a premier left side of the line for the next 10 years, but it doesn't matter how beastly they can block if we continue to trot out scrubs like Thigpen to play behind them. You don't draft a G at #15 overall. It doesn't make sense. We have a LT, and we ought to give him a chance to develop before we decide to shuffle him inside. Albert could be the next Willie Roaf. We'll have to wait and see.

And suppose we pass on Stafford and draft Oher, or Rey, or whoever. WTF happens when we do better than expected and end up drafting 7th or 8th or some sh*t in 2010 and both Bradford and Sanchez are on the board and we miss out altogether? That would be a travesty.

Nightfyre · 09-24-2008, 01:18 PM

Any chance Robinson falls to rd 2? Man that would be a helluva draft.

Rd. 1 Bradford/Stafford
Rd. 2 Robinson

Sign a Vilma and an Asomugha.
Our line could be really solid then.

milkman · 09-24-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

And as far as Oher possibly grading out to be the best LT prospect in years...well, we took an LT with our 15th pick. He may have been a G, but we drafted him to play LT, and he's done a pretty damn good job in his first three starts, especially going up against Abraham and Seymour.

Albert is our LT of the future, and I could understand the desire to lock up a premier left side of the line for the next 10 years, but it doesn't matter how beastly they can block if we continue to trot out scrubs like Thigpen to play behind them. You don't draft a G at #15 overall. It doesn't make sense. We have a LT, and we ought to give him a chance to develop before we decide to shuffle him inside. Albert could be the next Willie Roaf. We'll have to wait and see.

And suppose we pass on Stafford and draft Oher, or Rey, or whoever. WTF happens when we do better than expected and end up drafting 7th or 8th or some sh*t in 2010 and both Bradford and Sanchez are on the board and we miss out altogether? That would be a travesty.

This is exactly why drafting Oher over Stafford would be myopic.

Great post.

Pablo · 09-24-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Any chance Robinson falls to rd 2? Man that would be a helluva draft.

Rd. 1 Bradford/Stafford
Rd. 2 Robinson

Sign a Vilma and an Asomugha.
Our line could be really solid then.

I dunno. That would be great. Mecca posted the Top 100 draft prospects a week ago or so.

I think Selvie was listed around 50. I'm sure he'll shoot up over the course of the season and the combine. But ...

1. Stafford
2. Selvie

would be pretty damn fine.

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oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5828993	incase any one was wondering here is the top 27 QB's of the draft http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009QB.php Tim Tebow, Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 235. Projected 40 Time: 4.52. Projected Round (2009): Top 5 Pick. 2007: ESPN's Jesse Palmer said that Tim Tebow moved himself into Heisman consideration in the wake of his performance at Ole Miss. I have to agree. Tebow's passing numbers were great - 20-of-34, 262 yards, two touchdowns - but his rushing numbers were downright spectacular (26 carries, 164 yards, two more scores). Tebow passed his first true test with flying colors. The sophomore was 14-of-19 for 299 yards, two touchdowns and one interception against Tennessee. He also rushed for 61 yards and two more scores on the ground. Where will Tim Tebow be drafted? Check out the Great Tim Tebow Debate and vote! Sam Bradford, Oklahoma Height: 6-4. Weight: 214. Projected 40 Time: 4.68. Projected Round (2009): Top 10 Pick. 3/26/08: Sam Bradford is going into his redshirt sophomore year, so he'll be eligible for the 2009 Draft. If he matches his 2007 numbers this upcoming year, I see no reason why he woudn't come out early. Bradford threw for 3,121 yards, 36 touchdowns and only eight picks - as a freshman. Unbelievable. Can we get a birth certificate? Matt Stafford, Georgia Height: 6-3. Weight: 237. Projected 40 Time: 4.74. Projected Round (2009): Top 10 Pick. 3/26/08: Matt Stafford improved upon his freshman campaign, throwing for 2,523 yards and 19 touchdowns. He did, however, complete just 55.7 percent of his passes. 2007: I'm not as high on Matt Stafford as other people are. Call me crazy, but I'm not sold on a guy who compiled way more picks (13) than touchdowns (7), even if he was a freshman. Stafford threw three interceptions against both Mississippi State and Kentucky - not the greatest opponents in the world. Stafford looked good against Auburn (14-20, 219 yds, 7 carries, 83 rush yds, 2 total TDs) and Georgia Tech (16-29, 171 yds, 1 TD), but things fell apart for him in the Chick Fil-A Bowl against Virginia Tech, where he went 9-of-21 for 129 yards, one touchdown and an interception. Stafford doesn't have the greatest weapons to work with, so I admit that I'm being a little harsh in my criticism. Cullen Harper, Clemson Height: 6-4. Weight: 215. Projected 40 Time: 4.79. Projected Round (2009): Top 25 Pick. 3/26/08: In his first season of extensive action, Cullen Harper threw for 2,887 yards, 27 touchdowns and only six interceptions. He qualified for the 2007 All-ACC Second Team. Curtis Painter, Purdue Height: 6-4. Weight: 223. Projected 40 Time: 4.85. Projected Round (2009): 2. 3/26/08: Curtis Painter threw for less yardage (3.846) than he did as a sophomore, but he compiled more touchdowns (29 to 22), less interceptions (11 to 19) and a higher completion percentage (62.6 to 59.4). Painter threw for more yards (3,985) last year than any player in Purdue history, which includes Drew Brees and Kyle Orton. That said, after starting hot in 2006, Painter was largely ineffective against Wisconsin (20-40, 187 yds, 1 INT), Penn State (22-39, 184 yds, 2 INTs), Illinois (20-42, 229 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT) and Indiana (4 INTs). Hunter Cantwell, Louisville Height: 6-5. Weight: 230. Projected 40 Time: 4.79. Projected Round (2009): 2. 2007: This is sort of like the Carson Palmer-Matt Leinart situation at USC. Hunter Cantwell stepped in for an injured Brian Brohm in 2006 and threw for 700 yards, five touchdowns and two picks, maintaining a completion percentage of 64.3. One of the top prospects in the nation who will have to wait until the 2008 season to play. Mark Sanchez, USC Height: 6-3. Weight: 225. Projected 40 Time: 4.71. Projected Round (2009): 2-3. Will likely take over for John David Booty in 2008. Only threw seven passes as a freshman, so there isn't much film to digest. Todd Boeckman, Ohio State Height: 6-5. Weight: 243. Projected 40 Time: 4.76. Projected Round (2009): 3. 3/26/08: Todd Boeckman improved throughout the 2007 campaign but looked very mediocre against LSU in the national championship, going 15-of-26 for 208 yards, two touchdowns and two picks. 2007: A massive quarterback with a great arm, Todd Boeckman really proved himself by throwing for 257 yards and three scores at Penn State. Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas Height: 6-1. Weight: 212. Projected 40 Time: 4.77. Projected Round (2009): 3-4. 3/26/08: The Southland Offensive Player of the Year, Nathan Brown compiled 3,084 yards, 26 touchdowns and 10 picks as a junior. Level of competition is obviously an issue, but he's worth consideration in the third or fourth rounds. Tom Brandstater, Fresno State Height: 6-5. Weight: 220. Projected 40 Time: 4.77. Projected Round (2009): 3-4. 3/26/08: After a miserable sophomore campaign, Tom Brandstater finally lived up to the hype, as he managed 2,654 yards, 15 touchdowns and just five interceptions in 2007. Colt McCoy, Texas Height: 6-3. Weight: 205. Projected 40 Time: 4.69. Projected Round (2009): 4. 3/26/08: Colt McCoy had a disappointing sophomore year, throwing 18 picks after just seven in 2006. His completion percentage dropped three points as well. 2007: McCoy threw interceptions like a madman in a 20-point loss to Kansas State. Through five games, he has way more picks than he had as a freshman. McCoy's freshman campaign reminds me a bit of Philip Rivers' 2006 season. The Longhorns, much like Marty Schottenheimer, didn't let their young quarterback loose until midway through the season. When McCoy was allowed to fire at will, he tore it up. He threw for six touchdowns against Baylor. He compiled 346 yards and three scores against Oklahoma State. He accumulated 256 yards and four touchdowns at Texas Tech. He was 26-of-40 for 308 yards and two scores in the Alamo Bowl against Iowa. There's no reason to think McCoy will regress; he has great weapons at his disposal and plays in a weak conference. Dan LeFevour*, Central Michigan Height: 6-3. Weight: 226. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2009): 4. 5/1/08: Looking to be the next NFL quarterback from the MAC, Dan LeFevour threw for 3,652 yards, 27 touchdowns and only 13 picks in 2007. He completed 65.4 percent of his passes, and rushed for 1,122 yards and 19 scores. Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State Height: 6-2. Weight: 199. Projected 40 Time: 4.80. Projected Round (2009): 4. 3/26/08: Rudy Carpenter puts up some nice stats - for the most part. He threw for 3,202 yards, 25 touchdowns and only 10 picks in 2007. So, what's the problem? Carpenter was sacked 54 times. The Sun Devils currently have the top center prospect in the 2008 Draft, so it's not like he had no protection. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech Height: 6-2. Weight: 196. Projected 40 Time: 4.73. Projected Round (2009): 4-5. 3/26/08: Another Texas Tech quarterback? Sort of - Graham Harrell is much better than any of his predecessors. Still, it's a bit scary to take a signal caller from a school that has produced nothing but NFL duds (see Florida Gators as another example). Harrell, like Chase Holbrook and Colton Brennan, produces disgusting numbers because of his offense. He threw for 5,705 yards, 48 touchdowns and 14 interceptions in 2007. 2007: Something scouts won't be able to measure is Harrell's ability to perform in the clutch. Down 31 points with less than eight minutes remaining in the third quarter against Minnesota, Harrell engineered the greatest comeback in bowl history, beating the pathetic Golden Gophers, 44-41. Chase Daniel, Missouri Height: 6-0. Weight: 223. Projected 40 Time: 4.58. Projected Round (2009): 4-5. 2007: Chase Daniel's 6-foot frame really hurts him. Plenty of small quarterbacks have succeeded in the NFL, so that doesn't mean Daniel will be a bad signal caller; it just means he won't get drafted as high as he should. One attribute that will help Daniel is his scrambling ability; he's quick and has shown that he's capable of picking up yards on the ground. In terms of passing, Daniel completed more than 50 percent in every single game. He ended his 2006 campaign with three interception-less games. He threw for 240 or more yards 11 times, finishing with 3,527 yards, 28 touchdowns and just 10 picks. Brian Hoyer, Michigan State Height: 6-3. Weight: 215. Projected 40 Time: 4.83. Projected Round (2009): 5-6. 3/26/08: Brian Hoyer was pretty impressive in 2007, considering he was a first-year starter. He accumulated 2,725 yards, 20 touchdowns and 11 picks. Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State Height: 6-5. Weight: 235. Projected 40 Time: 4.75. Projected Round (2009): 5-6. 3/26/08: Chase Holbrook regressed in 2007; after 34 touchdowns and nine picks as a sophomore, Holbrook had 26 touchdowns and 18 interceptions last season. 2007: Thanks to the ESPN Hype Machine, everyone talks about Colton Brennan, and not Holbrook. Yet, both are very similar collegiate quarterbacks - they put up sick numbers in gimmicky offenses. At 6-5, 235, Holbrook is a better pro prospect than Brennan (6-3, 196), in my opinion. Holbrook threw for 4,619 yards, 34 touchdowns and just nine interceptions as a sophomore last year. In his final game against Louisiana Tech, he was 41-of-54 for 514 yards and three touchdowns. An even more amazing statistic is that Holbrook finished the 2006 campaign with 179 consecutive passes without a pick. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State Height: 6-2. Weight: 218. Projected 40 Time: 4.72. Projected Round (2009): 6. 3/26/08: Remember when this guy looked pretty impressive as a red-shirt freshman in Oklahoma? Well, after being dismissed for taking money from boosters and missing the entire 2006 season, Rhett Bomar resurfaced and compiled 2,209 yards and 10 touchdowns in nine starts in 2007. Stephen McGee, Texas A&M Height: 6-3. Weight: 208. Projected 40 Time: 4.68. Projected Round (2009): 6-7. 3/26/08: After throwing just three picks in his first two years, Stephen McGee tossed eight interceptions in 2007. 2007: McGee was very inconsistent last year. For example, he was 19-of-23 for 183 yards and a score against Missouri. Three weeks later, he completed just eight passes (and one interception) in a 17-16 loss to Oklahoma. McGee was only a sophomore, but he needs to grow considerably over the next two years. Sean Glennon, Virginia Tech Height: 6-4. Weight: 225. Projected 40 Time: 4.69. Projected Round (2009): 7. 3/26/08: Needs to be more consistent to warrant draft consideration. Willie Tuitama, Arizona Height: 6-3. Weight: 211. Projected 40 Time: 4.78. Projected Round (2009): 7. 3/26/08: Put up solid numbers as a junior (3,683 yards, 28 touchdowns, 12 picks) and only had one really bad game (at Oregon State). Even against USC, Willie Tuitama managed to complete 30-of-43 attempts for 233 yards. John Parker Wilson, Alabama Height: 6-2. Weight: 209. Projected 40 Time: 4.72. Projected Round (2009): 7. 2007: John Parker Wilson doesn't exactly have the size that will make scouts salivate, but he has shown the ability to come up large in the clutch. Wilson was 16-of-20 for 243 yards and three scores at Arkansas. He was also 22-of-35 for 291 yards, two touchdowns and a pick at LSU. Any quarterback who can put up those numbers against LSU, especially on the road, has my respect. Mike Reilly, Central Washington Height: 6-3. Weight: 215. Projected 40 Time: 4.80. Projected Round (2009): 7. 3/26/08: A transfer from Washington State. Mike Reilly compiled 3,386 yards and 30 touchdowns, maintaining a completion percentage of 62.3 in 2007. Joe Ganz, Nebraska Height: 6-1. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.65. Projected Round (2009): 7-FA. 3/26/08: Considering what he was able to accomplish at the end of the 2007 season, it'll be exciting to watch Joe Ganz this year, especially now that Nebraska fans won't have to worry about Bill Callahan screwing up any game plans. In just three starts, Ganz threw for 1,399 yards, 15 touchdowns and seven picks. Nebraska scored 163 points in those three contests. Nate Longshore, California Height: 6-5. Weight: 233. Projected 40 Time: 4.88. Projected Round (2009): FA. 3/26/08: Nate Longshore regressed in his junior year after a solid sophomore campaign. He threw only 16 touchdowns and managed a completion percentage under 60. One has to wonder how much he'll struggle without DeSean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins and Craig Stevens in 2008. Ben Olson, UCLA Height: 6-4. Weight: 231. Projected 40 Time: 4.72. Projected Round (2009): FA. 3/26/08: Ben Olson struggled coming back from a knee injury in 2007, failing to complete 50 percent of his passes. 2007: Olson's 2006 season had three distinctive parts to it. In his first two games, he threw 442 yards, five touchdowns and one pick. The following two contests, Olson was guilty of four interceptions and no scores. On Oct. 7, Olson suffered a season-ending knee injury against Arizona. Thus, Olson's pretty much an enigma at this point. One glaring negative: Olson will be 26 in April 2009. That may scare a few teams away. Bobby Reid, Texas Southern Height: 6-3. Weight: 235. Projected 40 Time: 4.63. Projected Round (2009): FA. 3/26/08: Bobby Reid was the quarterback that sparked the controversy between Oklahoma State's head coach and the media. Reid was reported as being a soft player whose mother fed him chicken after the game. I'd comment on this, but I don't want Mike Gundy slitting my throat or anything. 2007: A tremendous athlete, Bobby Reid leads a potent Oklahoma State offense that averaged 39.2 points per game in 2006. But that doesn't mean Reid's a great prospect. The rising junior failed to complete more than 50 percent of his passes on four occasions. He was also very inconsistent, going 23-of-35 for 411 yards and five scores at Kansas, and 11-of-31 for 145 yards, one touchdown and a pick at Texas Tech. Reid's a scrambling quarterback, so he can get out of tight situations when pass protection fails, but his aerial game leaves much to be desired. Furthermore, one can only speculate how effective (or rather, ineffective) Reid will be once Adarius Bowman moves on to the NFL.
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09-24-2008, 01:10 PM	#220
crazycoffey .......... Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $4157901	I think the plan is for Chan/Herm to coax Cordell out of retirement. He was on "Pros vs. Joes" still awful.
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09-24-2008, 01:13 PM	#222
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1860644	I wouldn't be too upset with Stafford, Sanchez or Bradford. Although it's only probable we'll get a chance to go after Stafford at this point. I don't see how any Chiefs fan could be disappointed with any of the 3 after watching horrible to decent QB play for the last 2+ decades. Stafford has a slightly better arm than Bradford. He has a slightly better build. Bradford is probably the better game manager of the two, and he doesn't make mistakes. As far as mobility...they're both mobile enough to make due in this league. I can't hate on Stafford. He looks a bit rusty at times, but it's college. I expect that. I wouldn't be upset at all with the pick. And as far as Oher possibly grading out to be the best LT prospect in years...well, we took an LT with our 15th pick. He may have been a G, but we drafted him to play LT, and he's done a pretty damn good job in his first three starts, especially going up against Abraham and Seymour. Albert is our LT of the future, and I could understand the desire to lock up a premier left side of the line for the next 10 years, but it doesn't matter how beastly they can block if we continue to trot out scrubs like Thigpen to play behind them. You don't draft a G at #15 overall. It doesn't make sense. We have a LT, and we ought to give him a chance to develop before we decide to shuffle him inside. Albert could be the next Willie Roaf. We'll have to wait and see. And suppose we pass on Stafford and draft Oher, or Rey, or whoever. WTF happens when we do better than expected and end up drafting 7th or 8th or some sh*t in 2010 and both Bradford and Sanchez are on the board and we miss out altogether? That would be a travesty.
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09-24-2008, 01:18 PM	#223
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1298849	Any chance Robinson falls to rd 2? Man that would be a helluva draft. Rd. 1 Bradford/Stafford Rd. 2 Robinson Sign a Vilma and an Asomugha. Our line could be really solid then.
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