Let's put all the QB talk right here

[Mecca]

Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

If the Rams are drafting ahead of us do you guys think they'll pick Stafford?

There starting trent green that should be enough to tell you that they would pick stafford

[Pablo]

Benching Marc Bulger was a knee-jerk reaction trying to get a spark out of a horrible team, and bad offensive unit. I doubt it works out well. Bulger ought to be back starting before long once they realize he's not the real issue.

He's definitely a servicable QB in the league. I'd guess he's been in the league 7 or 8 years, so he's got a few good years left in him.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Benching Marc Bulger was a knee-jerk reaction trying to get a spark out of a horrible team, and bad offensive unit. I doubt it works out well. Bulger ought to be back starting before long once they realize he's not the real issue.

He's definitely a servicable QB in the league. I'd guess he's been in the league 7 or 8 years, so he's got a few good years left in him.

Yeah but once the Rams realize that Stafford is a huge upgrade from Bulger what's to stop them from drafting him if they pick ahead of us? It's a little frustrating because on one hand we've got a lot of holes to fill but on the other hand we desperately need a franchise QB and there's a huge dropoff after Stafford IMO. I mean do we go after Stafford at signifigant costs?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Yeah but once the Rams realize that Stafford is a huge upgrade from Bulger what's to stop them from drafting him if they pick ahead of us? It's a little frustrating because on one hand we've got a lot of holes to fill but on the other hand we desperately need a franchise QB and there's a huge dropoff after Stafford IMO. I mean do we go after Stafford at signifigant costs?

I don't know what sort of contract Bulger's in right now, but I'm sure he's making a ton of money and the Rams have quite a bit tied up in him. He doesn't really have that bad of numbers this year either. Jackson hasn't done sh*t. Their line is trash and their WR corps is lackluster. Remind ya or anyone? Bulger isn't a bad option at QB, they'll probably realize this after TrINT reappears or gets knocked out of the game.

I'd imagine they'd sure up their line, considering they have a servicable QB situation. We have a pretty terrible QB situation. If Brodie didn't get hurt and was progressing, we probably wouldn't take a very serious look at Stafford. So I'd imagine after Brodie gets hurt again(likely), we'll be in desperate need of a QB and go after Stafford pretty vigorously if the Rams are ahead of us. Depending on how he progresses through the rest of the season of course.

[Brock]

The Rams coaching staff is going to be fired. It's going to depend on who's next.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Brock

The Rams coaching staff is going to be fired. It's going to depend on who's next.

This is true. The Chiefs and Rams could both have brand new management next season and the 1,2 picks. It ought to be interesting.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Yeah but once the Rams realize that Stafford is a huge upgrade from Bulger what's to stop them from drafting him if they pick ahead of us? It's a little frustrating because on one hand we've got a lot of holes to fill but on the other hand we desperately need a franchise QB and there's a huge dropoff after Stafford IMO. I mean do we go after Stafford at signifigant costs?

I don't think trading up to get Stafford is a wise decision if you are looking to go to #1 overall. We have so many holes on this team that it would cost us a couple of pretty significant draft picks to get there.

Who really knows what the Rams would do. You think that they'd probably take Oher, but you don't know for certain.

The truly ironic thing is that in many ways the Rams could control our own rebuild. Say they finish worse than us and take Stafford. That changes the entire nature of our own rebuild. At that point, we'd be far better off taking Oher, Monroe, or Andre Smith, and then trying to pluck as much skill position and interior line talent from the rest of the draft (at value) so that the QB class in '10 could properly succeed. Then, we'd probably have to go after a free agent QB to warm the seat for a year and a half before the next QB takes over, whether it is Bradford, Sanchez, or someone else.

[jidar]

I was having a hard time deciding between Tebow and Stafford, leaning towards Stafford because everyone said he was a traditional pocket passer.

But then I looked at the stats.

Tebow
2007: 350 attempts 234completions 66.9% accuracy 3286yds 32tds 6ints

Stafford
2007: 348 attempts 193 completions 55.7% accuracy 2523yds 19tds 10ints

Tebow wins, hands down. He has had a 67% completion rate for both 2006 and 2007 while Staffords was 52% and 56%

[SBK]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think trading up to get Stafford is a wise decision if you are looking to go to #1 overall. We have so many holes on this team that it would cost us a couple of pretty significant draft picks to get there.

Who really knows what the Rams would do. You think that they'd probably take Oher, but you don't know for certain.

The truly ironic thing is that in many ways the Rams could control our own rebuild. Say they finish worse than us and take Stafford. That changes the entire nature of our own rebuild. At that point, we'd be far better off taking Oher, Monroe, or Andre Smith, and then trying to pluck as much skill position and interior line talent from the rest of the draft (at value) so that the QB class in '10 could properly succeed. Then, we'd probably have to go after a free agent QB to warm the seat for a year and a half before the next QB takes over, whether it is Bradford, Sanchez, or someone else.

That's depressing. Although I think we're worse than the Rams. They're at least getting smoked by good teams....

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by jidar

I was having a hard time deciding between Tebow and Stafford, leaning towards Stafford because everyone said he was a traditional pocket passer.

But then I looked at the stats.

Tebow
2007: 350 attempts 234completions 66.9% accuracy 3286yds 32tds 6ints

Stafford
2007: 348 attempts 193 completions 55.7% accuracy 2523yds 19tds 10ints

Tebow wins, hands down. He has had a 67% completion rate for both 2006 and 2007 while Staffords was 52% and 56%

Gimmick offense vs. Real offense with conservative tendencies. Tebow FTL.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by jidar

I was having a hard time deciding between Tebow and Stafford, leaning towards Stafford because everyone said he was a traditional pocket passer.

But then I looked at the stats.

Tebow
2007: 350 attempts 234completions 66.9% accuracy 3286yds 32tds 6ints

Stafford
2007: 348 attempts 193 completions 55.7% accuracy 2523yds 19tds 10ints

Tebow wins, hands down. He has had a 67% completion rate for both 2006 and 2007 while Staffords was 52% and 56%

Have you watched the 2 guys play?

[suds79]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

If the Rams are drafting ahead of us do you guys think they'll pick Stafford?

Maybe. And boy would that suck.

But it's not like there wouldn't be other options later in the draft.

We could pick up Ray Maualgua or someone like that... Our MLB is pretty horrid.

Or there's trade down possibilities if the Chiefs are high on a guy like Bradford (who knows where he'll go) or Tebow.

... What makes you so sure that we'll finish above the Rams?

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by SBK

That's depressing. Although I think we're worse than the Rams. They're at least getting smoked by good teams....

As bad as we are right now, with a young team you never know when they might come up with some unexpected wins down the stretch. I highly doubt it but winning 0-3 games isn't a foregone conclusion.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by suds79

Maybe. And boy would that suck.

But it's not like there wouldn't be other options later in the draft.

We could pick up Ray Maualgua or someone like that... Our MLB is pretty horrid.

Or there's trade down possibilities if the Chiefs are high on a guy like Bradford (who knows where he'll go) or Tebow.

... What makes you so sure that we'll finish above the Rams?

That's the thing we don't know. I think Maualga would be a great pick if Stafford is taken ahead of us.

[jidar]

Originally Posted by SBK

Have you watched the 2 guys play?

yes, yes I have. And I haven't seen enough of either of them to say for sure that Tebow can't pass in the NFL and the Stafford can.

I do know I like Staffords throws better but his decision making is suspect to me. Tebow can't make the passes that Stafford can, but the guy plays smart. Combine that with the type of athlete he is and I think he might be something special.